[Sca-cooks] OT Authenticity Police: dye colours.

Tara tsersen at nni.com
Wed Sep 19 11:35:11 PDT 2001


I know full well that there were bright colors in period.  But, there's
a difference between brights and neons.  The fact that it might be
physically possible to get "hot pink" like the stuff that 12 year old
girls wear doesn't mean they did it in period.  Do you know of an
example of a neon color in illustration or dye recipe?  I don't know of
any.

And, is there any evidence that cocheneal ever made it to Europe in the
mere century that there was contact?  It's a Mexican bug, so I think
it's unlikely that it was common, if available at all.  Isn't kermise
Egyption?  With what frequency were dyestuff other than madder, woad,
weld and saffron used?

And, isn't "polished" linen a finishing technique involving modern
sizing that washes out?  At least if you mean the same thing I do by
"polished."  Silk satins are also shiny... but there's still a world of
difference in look between linen or silk and polyester novelty fabrics.

-Magdalena

Hrolf Douglasson wrote:
>
> You want authentic screaming colours
> 10 hot pink   try kermise or its american cousin cochaneal. its very bright
> neon yellow or green Weld produces the brilliant yellow when dyed in a
> ceramic pot
> and then double dye to get the green....add woad for blue.
> orange is also a double dye  weld then madder.
> They are disgusting...A Couple of the menfolk in our group use these colours
> and although we keep trying to BAN them on grounds of taste they are
> perfectly doable with the dyes available in England pre 1066
> I play a lot earlierr than the SCA.
>
> Vara who suffers from seeing limegreen trousers done with an orange top at
> some shows.
> And don't forget polished linen can look shiney.
>
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