[Sca-cooks] ASL, was Russian (was Re: Accidental french) - OT

[Kirsten Houseknecht]

a lot of ASL users have not merely "ASL grammer" but bad grammer, owing to
their unfortunate tendancy to be poorly educated.
this is a problem with the deaf.. they are often shunted out of real
education, and even the good deaf schools often do not insist on good paper
writing skills.

my brother is a good example, i challenge anyone to understand a typical
email of his, or letter........ even though he is a highly educated and very
intelligent man.  if you dont speak ASL you havent a chance.. and even then
it will be tough.

my father, on the other hand.. went into college with hearing folks. and his
writing skills are extremely good.  i do NOT favor "mainstreaming" all deaf
students. most of them will never be able to keep up and you are condemning
them to a second rate education at best.. but i DO wish the deaf schools
held to higher standards of written english.

incidentally.. i learned to read early mostly due to the ease of translating
ASL to written. it was a visual=visual transition, instead of the usual
sound= visual that most english speakers have to go through.
Kirsten
kirsten at fabricdragon.com
http://www.fabricdragon.com

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gorgeous Muiredach" <muiredach at bmee.net>
To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Russian (was Re: Accidental french) - OT


>
>
> >I the funny part (to me at least) is the image of a class full of
> >students singing the following in Russian:
> >
> >"I don't know, I don't know
> >nothing, nothing
> >know nothing, know nothing
> >Good! Good!"
>
> Ahhh yes, now knowing the meaning of the verse, it is indeed quite
> hilarious :-)
>
> >So what's the "not really" written language that you speak?
>
> ASL, or American Sign Language.  It uses the same written alphabet and
> basically the same words as English, and most people don't write ASL, they
> just use English.  Some hard core Deafies will write in ASL, using a very
> ASL syntax, which looks funny to someone who doesn't read it.
>
> Gorgeous Muiredach the Odd
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