[Sca-cooks] OT Heralds

[Elaine Koogler]

Bravo....Bravo....Bravo!!!  I have always felt that officers are there to
serve the people and not, as some appear to think, to be served by the
people.  I happen to also feel that way about the Royals and Barons.  I know
that the Crowns I have, over the years, respected the most are those who
place the concerns and interests of their people ahead of their own.  And
that's the way Phillip and I have tried to behave as B&B of Dun Carraig.

Kiri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura C. Minnick" <lcm at efn.org>
To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] OT Heralds


>
>
> Stefan li Rous wrote:
> >
> > A tired Lainie declared:
> > > Ok- I read a bunch of posts on Heralds and dragons in drag and...
> > >
> > > Just to say this:
> > >
> > > It is not the job of an officer (herald, seneschal, Grand Poo-Bah,
Chief
> > > Nose-Picker, etc) to say NO. It is the job of the officer TO FIND A
WAY
> > > TO SAY YES!
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with this statement.
> >
> > This, to give it a context that folks here may see easier, is like
> > saying that the officer must find a way to say YES to having
> > hamburgers and hotdogs at a feast.
> >
> > If the desired heraldry doesn't follow period rules or is utterly
> > modern in charges and style, the officer should not be trying to find
> > a way to allow it.
>
> Ack! Ack! Not how I meant!
>
> We all know them- the officers how automatically say no- and then dare
> you to figure a way out and around... and that is the form I spoke
> against.
>
> Ok, if teh heraldry doesn't follow rules, etc, and can't pass, I am not
> saying that the herald should make it pass. What I mean by 'FIND A WAY'
> is something like sitting down and saying "Well, you want this and this
> and this. Hmm. Unfortunately, as this is, it doesn't follow the basic
> rules of heraldry, and I can submit it but it will bounce. But we might
> be ables to do something here. What of these parts is the most important
> to you? Is there a story behind them? How about if we put this here, and
> oh- if we change to color of this it would make things a lot easier!" Do
> you get my drift? Finding out what they really want gets you a long way
> towards helping them put together something that will pass.
>
> You see, my perspective on officering- is that you're not there to 'run'
> things or push paper (while that is important) or appear officious when
> you stand around in your tabard. The officer's first duty is to be a
> _servant_. If someone wants hotdogs at feast, then we graciously say "I
> don't believe that we can do that, but I know that there will be some
> wonderful sausages made by Lady Beefgrinder! Perhaps if you hold onto a
> bit of the bread appetizer, you could eat that with the sausage. But I
> heartily recommend the mustard sauce- it is delicious!" Or if someone
> wants to sponsor a 'Commercial Jingle Bardic' and offer prizes for the
> best approximation of the Budweizer Frogs- you can say "Hmm. That might
> be better off in your own camp, after all, most people don't come to an
> SCA event for references to Tv. But you know, in the planned bardic, we
> could have a contest for short songs or skits about money! Maybe offer a
> beverage for the winner?"
>
> I hate it when we have to say no. Site constraints and money policy
> already get a lot of things we could do. But when someone asks for
> something it is sometimes a good thing to not immediately say no, but to
> stop, think about what they really want, and you might be able to work
> something out.
>
> And when you can, it is a wonderfull thing to be able to turn to them
> and say "It was a lot of work, but I think it will pass!"
>
> 'Lainie
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