[Sca-cooks] Feast Procedural Question

[Elaine Koogler]

OK.  I've done both the Autocrat's job for a Kingdom Twelfth Night...and I'm
Baroness of a local group.  In fact, I filled both sets of shoes for
Atlantia's last Twelfth Night.  Also, we did have a very large Kingdom event
here where a lady from another group asked our group to work with them on
the event.  It was our 20th year celebration, and very important.  There was
a committee for the event which, as Baroness of the area where the event was
to be held, I was a participant.

So I think I know what I'm talking about here.  Your Baron is 'way out of
line, and I honestly believe that Dame Huette should maybe have a talk with
this guy and let him know that he really is overstepping his bounds.  I
think he might be shown a copy of the menu once you've got it settled, as a
courtesy.  But I don't think he should have veto rights.  Possibly he might
offer suggestions if there's a problem with cost or difficulty, as I
indicated in my last response to ths, but that's about it.  As Head
Cook/Feast Steward, the final decision should be yours!

Kiri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Fox-Davis" <firedrake at earthlink.net>
To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Feast Procedural Question


>
>
> Barbara Benson wrote:
>
> >Greetings,
> >
> >For my part, I have done - to date - two feasts. Both feasts took me at
> >least two to three months to plan and had extensive revisions from my
> >initial idea to my final menu.
> >
> >If you are willing to function under the provisions placed upon you then
I
> >wish you the best of luck and offer any assistance I can provide (you
have a
> >great deal more experience than I but I will give you any of the
redactions
> >I have done).
> >
> Gramercy.  Since the theme is the _Tres Riches Heures_ of Jean, le Duc
> du Berry, I'm looking for good redactions from Talliavent and Menagier,
> and any other good French dishes of the era.  The theme of the feast
> itself has been intended to be the Canonical hours, and I could've sworn
> I'd seen a period reference to such a feast, but it's eluding me at the
> moment.  Some menu from a period French epiphany feast to be set before
> a King and court would be nice to see.
>
> >
> >
> >That said, if I had volunteered to cook a feast and then received the
> >requests that you have then I would politely tell them to find another
cook.
> >If a Baronial head commisioned an Illuminated scroll for their tournament
> >would it be accepted that they request not one, but three different
(fully
> >executed) designs for the scroll? And then reserve veto rights over the
> >colors & styles chosen to paint the scroll.? I do not think so! Crafting
a
> >feast menu is as much of an art as any of the arts in the SCA. To attempt
to
> >exert that kind of control is ludicrous.
> >
> _That's_ not a response I considered.  Thanks.
>
> Part of the issue is that A) A certain peer of the realm asked for
> permission to prepare a 12th Night bid in a Barony other than her own --
> to wit, the Barony in which I live.  B)  The Baron was particularly NOT
> encouraging, but saying he'd go along with it if we found an appropriate
> hall, C) Said hall was found, and it seems the Baron has now appointed
> himself to be the overseer of the 12th Night committee, with the
> self-designated responsibility to second guess everyone else's jobs.  He
> is now insisting that, as the Crown's representative, he is responsible
> for the success of the event, and thus is within his rights to claim the
> final say in all matters.
>
> Note:  The Mistress Autocrat of said whole event is an experienced feast
> cook, and content to let me select dishes and themes.
>
> Note also, the Baron is ALSO an experienced cook, and I suspect part of
> his desire to make comments on my menu stems from his desire to be
> running the feast himself.
>
> I wouldn't have a problem with suggestions or comments, but I'm really
> balking at not being able to make the final decision on the menu.
>
> Thank you all for your comments.  They are helping.
>
> Frustratedly,
>
> Jared
>
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