[Sca-cooks] Fruit pies?

[Johnna Holloway]

There's a question about a lack of baking ovens in the early settlement.
Also apparently there may have been a lack of wheat flour. As least in 
1621 there
was no wheat or rye flour for crusts or bread, according to Anderson and 
Deetz in
Partakers of Plenty. A Study of the First Thanksgiving. (Plimoth Plantation)
This may result in the facts being given as such on the program.
There were fruit pies before the 16th century but the Proper Newe Booke 
of Cokerye
is credited as being  the first printed cookbook with a substantial 
section on them. It's dated 1545.
There's an interesting article "The First Thanksgiving" by Andrew F. 
Smith in the Fall
2003 issue of Gastronomica for those interested in the subject.

Johnnae llyn Lewis

Tara Sersen Boroson wrote: snipped
This made me question some of their other "historical" facts.  First, 
they claimed that fruit pies weren't invented until the 16th century.  
So, what are the earliest known references to fruit pies?

> The other "fact" that made me raise an eyebrow was out of period for 
> us.  They claimed that the pilgrims didn't make any pies with edible 
> crusts, but that all crusts were the very hard kind used as baking 
> vessels.  Any thoughts?
> -Magdalena
>