[Sca-cooks] festivals and calenders, wasBread recipe request (OOP)

[Kirsten Houseknecht]

1. may i please post this entire discussion, with emails cut out of it, to
a Pagan group i am on??? please????

2. yes, weird things happen to lunar calenders when you "fix" the dates to a
solar year... also recall that the order of some months has changed, and a
few months added and then the days standardized.......

3. living in Pennsylvania, as i do. the pagan festivals (or the
Christian/pagan ones) seem oddly out of synch with the actual weather. but i
understand it makes more sense in the mediteranean, owing to the moderating
influence of the mediteranean sea......
Kirsten Houseknecht
Fabric Dragon
kirsten at fabricdragon.com
www.fabricdragon.com
Philadelphia, PA     USA
Trims, Amber, Jet, Jewelry, and more...

I worry about you, wear a reflective sweater...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Decker" <t.d.decker at worldnet.att.net>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Bread recipe request (OOP)


> Considering that the Christians were willing to co-opt rituals from
anyone,
> in my opinion, it is very likely that Celtic pagan rituals got scattered
> temporally into the Christian religious calendar.  Lammas is a
first-fruits
> thanksgiving, but it also celebrates St. Peter's deliverance from prison.
> That latter point makes me think the feast may have been in the Christian
> calendar before mugging a Celtic god for its harevest rites.  It might
also
> be instructive to take a scholarly look at the worship of Ceres and
Demeter.
>
> To my eye, the Wiccan calendar is a lunar cycle overlaid on a solar year,
> which suggests that the dates (not necessarily the connection) are a
> neopagan convention derived from the Christian calendar.
>
> Bear
>
>
> >>BTW, under the Julian calendar, the presumed date of Lughnassad falls
more
> >> closely to the Feast of the Assumption (Aug. 15) than to Lammas.
> >
> >Yeah. :) So where did Loafmass come from? Or is that a separate holiday,
> >and is the connection between Lughnassad and the first-fruits a modern
> >neopagan convention?
> >
> >-- Pani Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika jenne at fiedlerfamily.net
> >"Somedays the struggle just gets tired..." -- Renee Senolges
>
>
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