[Sca-cooks] More on name derivation...

[Phlip]

Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...

but I have gotten to my Turkish
> dictionaries.
> Seems that chulluk (properly spelled c,ulluk--the
> comma going
> under the c as part of the letter, which I can't do
> on email)
> is a term for the woodcock and similar shore birds.
> As to
> the English: The OED says (with illustrative quotes,
> to
> prove it) that "turkey" originally applied to the
> guinea
> fowl, which probably reached Europe first through
> Turkey--
> then it was introduced by the Portuguese
> (separately) and
> became the "guinea" fowl. The American bird was
> first lumped
> with the guinea fowl. It then became the only
> "turkey."
> Sounds reasonable. Given all this confusion of
> names, I
> would be most unsurprised if chulluk were expanded
> by at
> least some speakers in Turkey to include the guinea
> fowl! I
> don't know.
>      Maize was widely called "turkey corn" in
> several European
> languages and is so called in the first Euro.
> illustration of
> it ("turcicum frumentum"). The deal here seems to be
> that
> Turkey was very quick on the draw in adopting New
> World food
> crops--they were later to be quick to adopt
> tomatoes, chiles,
> etc.--and did indeed introduce maize to parts of
> Europe.
> Can't find my misremembered quote in Bierce's
> Devil's
> Dictionary, but must have been tete de veau.
> best--Gene A

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