[Sca-cooks] OOP? Hispanic cookie question

Martin G. Diehl mdiehl at nac.net
Wed Dec 22 23:13:47 PST 2004


Robin Carroll-Mann wrote:
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ranvaig at columbus.rr.com
> 
> >baking.  They are called buñuelos.
> 
> Unfortunately this comes out as gibberish on my
> computer.  Please what is the name without the
> special characters?
> 
> Ranvaig
> 
> Sorry, I thought it would be readable.  Bunuelos.  
> There's a tilda ~ over the N which gives it a NY sound 
> (as in "nyah-nyah" not "nylon").
> 
> Lady Brighid ni Chiarain
> Barony of Settmour Swamp, East Kingdom

Bunuelos ... and with the tilde N, Buñuelos (I hope!)

There are codes to represent virtually every character 
of every language.  ... but some don't always work from 
one computer to another.  

Computers handle codes in 8-bit groups -- codes 0-255 in 
decimal or 00-FF in hex.  

The number of different characters far exceeds what can be 
coded in the range 0-255.  Some PC operating systems are 
limited to handling that kind of range.  Others can handle 
a wider range of codes.  The choice of web browser and/or 
word processor also affects the character display.  

It is a confusing subject; the issues and the solutions 
are not well documented.  It took me over 2 hours to find 
the information for this eMail response.  -- and I wasn't 
even _trying_ to see what caused the original issue.  

I hope you can see all of these code vs. character 
examples ... 

	Hex
	Code   Character name

	00A2 ¢ Cent Sign
	00A3 £ Pound Sterling Sign
	00A5 ¥ Yen Sign
	00A9 © Copyright Sign
	00AE ® Registered Sign
	00C6 Æ Latin Capital Ligature AE
	00C7 Ç Latin Capital Letter C With Cedilla
	00D0 Ð Latin Capital Letter Eth
	00D1 Ñ Latin Capital Letter N With Tilde
	00DE Þ Latin Capital Letter Thorn
	00E6 æ Latin Small Ligature ae
	00E7 ç Latin Small Letter c With Cedilla
	00F0 ð Latin Small Letter eth
	00F1 ñ latin Small Letter n With Tilde
	00FE þ Latin Small Letter thorn

Why these? ç Ç [c Cedilla], ñ Ñ [n tilde] are Spanish; 
Ð ð [eth], Þ þ [thorn] are Icelandic and Old English; 
œ Œ, æ Æ [Ash] are Old English. OTOH, these additional 
Old English letters can't always be represented: yogh, 
wynn, the Tironian sign (for and or ond), as well as 
barred thorn (abbreviating þæt).  

Incidentally, the letters in Old English have a variety 
of sources: Ash [Æ æ] from Latin; Thorn [Þ þ] and Wynn 
from Futhatk; Eth [Ð ð] and Yogh from Old Irish; 

I know, you're thinking, "And this has what to do with 
cooking?" ... Well, you'll thank me if you ever have to 
read a recipe from an Old English Manuscript.  <g> 
... or even Beowabbit, for that matter.  

Here are some of the alphabets that we use ... and try to 
represent on computer and/or transmit on the internet ... 

Omniglot: Latin alphabet
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/latin.htm

Omniglot: Spanish (Español)
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/spanish.htm 

Omniglot: Irish (Gaeilge)
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/irish.htm

Omniglot: Irish uncial alphabet
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/irish.htm#irishunc

Omniglot: Old English / Anglo-Saxon 
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/oldenglish.htm 

Here are the computer codes that are employed ... 

"iso8859-1 table";
http://www.ramsch.org/martin/uni/fmi-hp/iso8859-1.html
(NOTE: an older browser or eMail client may not have 
implemented all of these codes)

"Working with Old English text on the Web"; 
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ballc/oe/oe-chars.html 

"Representing Middle English Manuscripts on the Web w/ UTF-8";
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/st-erkenwald.html 

"The Macintosh Latin Font"; 
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/maclatin.html

Unicode, basic Latin (0-127 decimal; 0000-007F hex)
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0000.pdf 

Unicode, Latin-1 Supplement (128-255 dec; 0080-00FF hex)
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf 

Unicode, Latin Extended-A (codes 256-383 dec; 0100-017F hex)
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0100.pdf

Unicode: Latin Extended-B (codes 384-591 dec; 0180–024F hex)
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0180.pdf 

-- 
Martin G. Diehl

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Reality: That which remains after you stop thinking about it.
  inspired by P. K. Dick



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