[Sca-cooks] The IBM (DOS) Extended ASCII Character set, was OOP? Hispanic cookie question

Thu Dec 23 00:39:44 PST 2004

I am sorry, Martin, but most of what you have
listed isn't very useful in showing how to use
or access the Extended ASCII Character set.
Here is the best website I know of with
instructions on how to use the set.

For those of us with PCs, here is the website:

http://telecom.tbi.net/asc-ibm.html

I have printed the page out and have it next to
my keyboard for easy reference.

After doing a bit of searching, I have found
a list for Mac Users here:

http://www.evergreen.edu/biophysics/technotes/program/ascii_ext-mac.htm

>From what I have been reading, computers that
understand Unicode will understand ASCII. Those
using Java should understand ASCII, but some
characters don't always show up correctly.

Here is an interesting discussion of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_ASCII

Here is a tutorial on character code issues:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars.html

Huette

--- "Martin G. Diehl" <mdiehl at nac.net> wrote:

> Robin Carroll-Mann wrote:
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ranvaig at columbus.rr.com
> > 
> > >baking.  They are called buÃ±uelos.
> > 
> > Unfortunately this comes out as gibberish on
> my
> > computer.  Please what is the name without
> the
> > special characters?
> > 
> > Ranvaig
> > 
> > Sorry, I thought it would be readable. 
> Bunuelos.  
> > There's a tilda ~ over the N which gives it a
> NY sound 
> > (as in "nyah-nyah" not "nylon").
> > 
> > Lady Brighid ni Chiarain
> > Barony of Settmour Swamp, East Kingdom
> 
> Bunuelos ... and with the tilde N, Buñuelos (I
> hope!)
> 
> There are codes to represent virtually every
> character 
> of every language.  ... but some don't always
> work from 
> one computer to another.  
> 
> Computers handle codes in 8-bit groups -- codes
> 0-255 in 
> decimal or 00-FF in hex.  
> 
> The number of different characters far exceeds
> what can be 
> coded in the range 0-255.  Some PC operating
> systems are 
> limited to handling that kind of range.  Others
> can handle 
> a wider range of codes.  The choice of web
> browser and/or 
> word processor also affects the character
> display.  
> 
> It is a confusing subject; the issues and the
> solutions 
> are not well documented.  It took me over 2
> hours to find 
> the information for this eMail response.  --
> and I wasn't 
> even _trying_ to see what caused the original
> issue.  
> 
> I hope you can see all of these code vs.
> character 
> examples ... 
> 
> 	Hex
> 	Code   Character name
> 
> 	00A2 ¢ Cent Sign
> 	00A3 £ Pound Sterling Sign
> 	00A5 ¥ Yen Sign
> 	00A9 © Copyright Sign
> 	00AE ® Registered Sign
> 	00C6 Æ Latin Capital Ligature AE
> 	00C7 Ç Latin Capital Letter C With Cedilla
> 	00D0 Ð Latin Capital Letter Eth
> 	00D1 Ñ Latin Capital Letter N With Tilde
> 	00DE Þ Latin Capital Letter Thorn
> 	00E6 æ Latin Small Ligature ae
> 	00E7 ç Latin Small Letter c With Cedilla
> 	00F0 ð Latin Small Letter eth
> 	00F1 ñ latin Small Letter n With Tilde
> 	00FE þ Latin Small Letter thorn
> 
> Why these? ç Ç [c Cedilla], ñ Ñ [n tilde] are
> Spanish; 
> Ð ð [eth], Þ þ [thorn] are Icelandic and Old
> English; 
> œ Œ, æ Æ [Ash] are Old English. OTOH, these
> additional 
> Old English letters can't always be
> represented: yogh, 
> wynn, the Tironian sign (for and or ond), as
> well as 
> barred thorn (abbreviating þæt).  
> 
> Incidentally, the letters in Old English have a
> variety 
> of sources: Ash [Æ æ] from Latin; Thorn [Þ þ]
> and Wynn 
> from Futhatk; Eth [Ð ð] and Yogh from Old
> Irish; 
> 
> I know, you're thinking, "And this has what to
> do with 
> cooking?" ... Well, you'll thank me if you ever
> have to 
> read a recipe from an Old English Manuscript. 
> <g> 
> ... or even Beowabbit, for that matter.  
> 
> Here are some of the alphabets that we use ...
> and try to 
> represent on computer and/or transmit on the
> internet ... 
> 
> Omniglot: Latin alphabet
> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/latin.htm
> 
> Omniglot: Spanish (Español)
> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/spanish.htm 
> 
> Omniglot: Irish (Gaeilge)
> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/irish.htm
> 
> Omniglot: Irish uncial alphabet
>
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/irish.htm#irishunc
> 
> Omniglot: Old English / Anglo-Saxon 
> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/oldenglish.htm 
> 
> Here are the computer codes that are employed
> ... 
> 
> "iso8859-1 table";
>
http://www.ramsch.org/martin/uni/fmi-hp/iso8859-1.html
> (NOTE: an older browser or eMail client may not
> have 
> implemented all of these codes)
> 
> "Working with Old English text on the Web"; 
>
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ballc/oe/oe-chars.html
> 
> 
> "Representing Middle English Manuscripts on the
> Web w/ UTF-8";
>
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/st-erkenwald.html
> 
> 
> "The Macintosh Latin Font"; 
> http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/maclatin.html
> 
> Unicode, basic Latin (0-127 decimal; 0000-007F
> hex)
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0000.pdf 
> 
> Unicode, Latin-1 Supplement (128-255 dec;
> 0080-00FF hex)
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf 
> 
> Unicode, Latin Extended-A (codes 256-383 dec;
> 0100-017F hex)
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0100.pdf
> 
> Unicode: Latin Extended-B (codes 384-591 dec;
> 0180–024F hex)
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0180.pdf 
> 
> -- 
> Martin G. Diehl

=====
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they 
shall never cease to be amused.

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