[Sca-cooks] OOP? Raw meat...
Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius
adamantius.magister at verizon.net
Thu Feb 12 10:47:50 PST 2004
Also sprach Pixel, Goddess and Queen:
> > Hullo, the list!
>>
>[snip]
>>
>> So the question now becomes, how much of a tradition in the Western
>> World, outside of the wealthy eating Steak Tartare at The Four
>> Seasons or some such, existed? Does anybody remember a parent or
>> grandparent, possibly one who would sneer at fancy presentations with
>> egg yolks and capers, grossing out the kids by eating raw meat on rye
>> with maybe a few pickles?
>>
>> I'm just wondering if perhaps this kind of thing was more widespread
>> fifty years ago than we'd like to believe now, or have been told.
>> Comments? Info?
>>
>> Adamantius
>
>My German grandparents (well, ok, German and Swedish and Austrian) ate
>headcheese and blood sausage, and my grandfather used to reminisce about
>goose fat smeared on rye bread, but I don't remember any eating of any raw
>meat.
>
>The PA side of the family is in part, AFAIK, descended from some
>Hessians who came to fight and stayed (thus they are also German), and I
>don't remember any of them eating raw meat either.
Okay. My point was only that the people I know who did, were all of
German ancestry, and then there's the fact that delicatessens were
probably, in the 1930's, more ethnically German shops than the
generic-charcuterie-and-accoutrements-shops that they tend to be
today.
I looked up the Luchow's recipe for "Raw Meat Lucullus", BTW, and
find that their German name for this dish, which is nearly identical
to a typical presentation of Steak Tartare (basically, anchovies
instead of capers), is "Schlemmerschnitte", which, I gather, is
simply a word meaning "chopped meat".
While you may not have experienced it, I think it's pretty hard to
deny that some German people (and others) did (and possibly still do)
this. What I'm really wondering is if this was ever, at any time, a
culture-crossing phenomenon, or regarded as an American thing.
Adamantius
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