[Sca-cooks] Full list of Elizabethan cookbooks long

[Johnna Holloway]

Playing librarian---- in answer to this question and because
others on the list may find it useful---
it was asked

>Where can I find a list of the known Elizabethan (English) cookbooks to be
>sure I have what's available?
>
Available in what way?
on microfilm? online from EEBO? online through transcriptions; as .pdf 
's or as Full-text.
Most English editions printed prior to 1700 are available through either 
UMI or EBBO already. We lack some editions
from certain printings, but the titles are covered by other printings 
from later or earlier years.
Ask at your local academic library.
OR
available in printed facsimiles or reprints either out of print or in 
print commercially in the summer of 2004 ?

I can suggest using Books in Print or Global Books in Print to determine 
what might be for sale this
summer. Those wanting to seriously keep up with the market may want to 
subscribe to Publishers Weekly
or read it weekly at their library. Publications such as PPC also 
provide book reviews too.

They have for instance just reissued Peter Brears' Tudor Cookery from 
1984-85.

>Also, is there a list of cookbooks from the Tudor/Elizabethan period that
>have been translated into English? This question was then expanded--- I'm
>looking for a listing of cookbooks written around 1500-1600 that might have
>been originally published in languages other than English that are now
>translated and available in English. Does that clarify what I'm hoping to find?
>
So you are in search of sixteenth century materials that were either 
translated into English during the period
or have been translated since  into English post 1600 that are currently 
for sale?
There are numerous bibliographies that list these
various  original titles and there are of course also checklists for the 
titles. Those tend to be retrospective.

Again Books in Print and Global Books in Print would be of value in 
listing actual commercial publications
that are currently available. This of course varies from year to year 
and these editions come into print and out
of print in very rapid fashion at times. Limited facsimiles moreover can 
be printed in editions of perhaps 200,
so collecting those requires money and luck. Try buying a 1/50 fine 
printing example for the recipes sometime.

RLIN and FirstSearch (OCLC) of course can provide this information also. 
Search under such subject headings
as cookery--early works to 1800. OCLC lists 1500 plus of which 833 are 
in English. One can of course play around
with the listings and have them sorted in various ways. Examining 1500 
entries is a quick browse in terms
of this sort of search. Limiting the list to those published in 
2000-2005 cuts the number down to: 32 entries of which
14 are in English.

Of course certain books such as John Partridge's The treasury of hidden 
secrets    [which is published by

 Cambridge, Mass. : Rhwymbooks, 2001, 1653] are listed here.    It may 
be the 1653 edition that is
reprinted but the work dates from  the 1590's.

If you can't  or don't have RLIN or OCLC you can use  the Library of 
Congress www.loc.gov.

Other Subject headings  that might be of interest include:  Cookery 
English early works to 1800 or even
Cookery English Sixteenth century or Cookery European History. Cookery 
medieval often proves interesting
as does Cookery, history.

One can of course search for OP works through the various used book 
channels. This can be
done online. I highly recommend that novices buyers use the links 
provided by

Out-of-Print, Used and In-Print Book Meta-links and Other Book Resources at
http://www.library.jhu.edu/rsd/about/collections/opcontents.html    as 
it walks one through
a used book search.


I have a goodly number of cookbooks, but want to be sure I have a copy of
what is out there. Pennsic is coming up, and this time I should make up a

>list instead of buying second copies. <grin>
>
>Rosalyn MacGregor (Pattie Rayl)
>  
>
I'd suggest that browsing the online catalogs of such bookdealers as 
Devra at
http://www.poisonpenpress.com/   would help with a list of what is 
likely to be at the War.
Devra is currently at BEA in Chicago searching for new titles, so expect 
great new books
coming soon!

Amanda at http://store.yahoo.com/acanthus-books/info.html  lists her 
editions by
century which may help you in composing a list.  See also
http://www.foodbooks.com/welcome.htm This is Joe Carlin's website which 
is great too.

Stuart Press publications since you asked about sixteenth century England
cover this period. http://sykesutler.home.att.net/stuart.htm is the 
agent now for their sale
in the USA. They tend to be at the War usually.

Hope this helps,

Johnnae llyn Lewis,   Librarian