[Sca-cooks] Another look at a Florilegium entry...

[Phlip]

And another point, in rebuttal to the question of whether English folks ate
horses.




Saint Phlip,
CoDoLDS

"When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
 Blacksmith's credo.

 If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
cat.

Never a horse that cain't be rode,
And never a rider who cain't be throwed....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Fox-Davis" <selene at earthlink.net>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Another look at a Florilegium entry...


> Certainly the Saxon taboo is where we get it from.  But this was a Norman
> banquet, without that particular prohibition.  Doubtless they shocked the
> Saxons silly.
>
> Selene
>
> On 5/16/04 4:44 PM, "Patricia Collum" <pjc2 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Well, I spent some time going through Ann Hagan's Anglo-Saxon Food and
> > Drink. It lists horse as a taboo food, likely to only be eaten in times
of
> > want or dearth, such as the time right after the battle of Hastings.
Eating
> > horses was also linked to pagan custom and discouraged by the church, as
was
> > the maiming of horses. It lists the part about German's being
discouraged
> > from their custom of eating horses, and that horses as food were also
linked
> > to Danish custom. Horses were considered too valuable even from a
political
> > and tactical standpoint to be used as food unless no other source of
food
> > was available.
> >
> > Cecily
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
> > To: "SCA-Cooks" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>; "SPCA"
> > <spca-wascaerfrig at yahoogroups.com>; <sca-equine at midrealm.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 2:15 PM
> > Subject: [Sca-cooks] Another look at a Florilegium entry...
> >
> >
> >> Selene, Stefan, In the Florilegium, Selene has the following note
posted:
> >>
> >>
> >> Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> >>
> >> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:43:05 -0800
> >>
> >> From: Susan Fox-Davis <selene at earthlink.net>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: SC - Fw: [Mid] Society Equestrian Newsletter! (fwd)
> >>
> >> I really have to worry when the equestrian notices show up on the
cooks'
> >> list.
> >> We just voted against use of horses for human consumption here in
> >> California.Okay, it's period. The Bayeaux Tapestry has a panel showing
a
> >> cook leading
> >> several animals off to the rotisserie, and one of the food-beasts is
> > clearly
> >> a
> >> horse. A fat little pony, clearly not a Knight's Charger. However...
just
> >> because it's period, doesn't mean I want to eat it.
> >>
> >> Lady Selene Colfox, Caid
> >>
> >> not an equivore
> >>
> >> selene at earthlink.net
> >>
> >> That letter has just come up on the SCA-Equestrian List, in a
discussion
> > on
> >> the usage of horses in period, and several people are objecting to that
> >> interpretation, since the small horse/pony in question is apparently
> >> carrying a pack similar to the packs larger horses are carrying
elsewhere
> > on
> >> the tapestry. Think we want to look at that again (if we can find a
> > picture
> >> of it) and reconsider our interpretations? I would tend to think, not
> > having
> >> seen the picture, that if the poiny is loaded like that, it might not
_be_
> > a
> >> foodstuff, but rather be _carrying_ a foodstuff, but I haven't seen
that
> >> section yet, since I'm not into the Tapestry, that when/where, or fiber
> >> arts.
> >>
> >> Now, insofar as using horses for meat, I tend to be resistant as I
would
> > be
> >> for dogs or cats, but I know it's done, and I have actually tasted
horse
> >> meat, but at the very least, we might want to put an addendum into trhe
> >> Florilegium, stating that that interpretation, at least in that
particular
> >> case, is being contested.
> >>
> >> Anybody who wants to go look at the Florilegium, the entry is:
> >>
> >> http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD-MEATS/horse-recipes-msg.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Saint Phlip,
> >> CoDoLDS
> >>
> >> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
> >>  Blacksmith's credo.
> >>
> >>  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
> >> cat.
> >>
> >> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> >> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
> >>
> >>
>
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