[Sca-cooks] Vegetarians and Fish, was Christmas Plans (Was Cake Sotelties)
Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius
adamantius.magister at verizon.net
Sat Dec 10 17:14:10 PST 2005
On Dec 10, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Huette von Ahrens wrote:
> Interesting about eggs. I can understand not eating fertilized
> eggs, but hens lay eggs whether or not they have been with
> a rooster and most eggs you buy in the supermarket haven't
> even come close to being fertilized. How would eating an
> unfertilized egg be killing a potential living creature?
>
> Huette
While I agree (in that an unfertilized egg is a cell, not an
organism), I guess it depends on how you interpret the word
"potential". I suppose you can say that an unfertilized egg is much
more of a potential living creature than, say, a paper clip or a
rock. But then, discussions like this are rarely about making
sense... ultimately, it's one of those "de gustibus non est
disputandum" things.
Adamantius
>
> --- Radei Drchevich <radei at moscowmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I ask because I have a Buddist monk friend<who no longer has a
>> body, but
>> that is another topic>. He would eat milk and cheese, but not
>> eggs. As
>> milk does not require the death of an animal, but eggs are
>> underdeveloped
>> chicken embryoes. Fish was not on his orders acceptable list.
>>
>> joy
>>
>> radei
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: lilinah at earthlink.net
>> To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
>> Subject: [Sca-cooks] Vegetarians and Fish, was Christmas Plans (Was
>> Cake Sotelties)
>> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:23:10 -0800
>>
>>
>>>> Salmon is vegetarian?????
>>>>
>>>> joy
>>>>
>>>> radei
>>
>> My thoughts exactly. Last time i looked, one could not plant a fish
>> in a garden (unless it had a pond)
>>
>>> uuuh...sure..yeah...haven't you heard of Sagetarians? :P
>>
>> Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...
>>
>>> Vegans are the hard core vegetarians.
>>
>> Wellllll, vegans eat only plant foods and do not eat dairy or
>> honey. They are a particular kind of vegetarian. Most of the
>> vegetarians i know will eat such animal products as dairy and honey
>> because they do not involve taking lives.
>>
>>> Standard vegetarians will eat fish
>>> once in a while.
>>>
>>> Lyse
>>
>> Nope, nope, nope. Fish are not vegetables. To eat fish and other
>> seafood involves taking life. I don't know a vegetarian who will
>> eat them.
>>
>> If someone eats fish, they are not a vegetarian. Let me add that i
>> know a number of people who *for simplicity's sake* will say they
>> are vegetarians, when they do not consider themselves to be so,
>> because it's easier then explaining that they eat what vegetarians
>> eat and they eat fish, but eschew meat from warm blooded land
>> critters.
>>
>> Fish amn't vegetables.
>> -- Urtatim (that's err-tah-TEEM)
>> the persona formerly known as Anahita
>>
>> A vegetarian in the late 1960s and early 1970s who didn't eat fish
>> and whose daughter has been a vegetarian since she was 12 and is
>> now
>> 25
>> she misses eating sushi but will not
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