[Sca-cooks] Vegetarians and Fish, was Christmas Plans (Was Cake Sotelties)

[Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius]

On Dec 10, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Huette von Ahrens wrote:

> Interesting about eggs.  I can understand not eating fertilized
> eggs, but hens lay eggs whether or not they have been with
> a rooster and most eggs you buy in the supermarket haven't
> even come close to being fertilized.  How would eating an
> unfertilized egg be killing a potential living creature?
>
> Huette

While I agree (in that an unfertilized egg is a cell, not an  
organism), I guess it depends on how you interpret the word  
"potential". I suppose you can say that an unfertilized egg is much  
more of a potential living creature than, say, a paper clip or a  
rock. But then, discussions like this are rarely about making  
sense... ultimately, it's one of those "de gustibus non est  
disputandum" things.

Adamantius

>
> --- Radei Drchevich <radei at moscowmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I ask because I have a Buddist monk friend<who no longer has a  
>> body, but
>> that is another topic>.  He would eat milk and cheese, but not  
>> eggs.  As
>> milk does not require the death of an animal, but eggs are  
>> underdeveloped
>> chicken embryoes.  Fish was not on his orders acceptable list.
>>
>> joy
>>
>> radei
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: lilinah at earthlink.net
>>   To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
>>   Subject: [Sca-cooks] Vegetarians and Fish, was Christmas Plans (Was
>>   Cake Sotelties)
>>   Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:23:10 -0800
>>
>>
>>>> Salmon is vegetarian?????
>>>>
>>>> joy
>>>>
>>>> radei
>>
>>   My thoughts exactly. Last time i looked, one could not plant a fish
>>   in a garden (unless it had a pond)
>>
>>> uuuh...sure..yeah...haven't you heard of Sagetarians? :P
>>
>>   Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...
>>
>>> Vegans are the hard core vegetarians.
>>
>>   Wellllll, vegans eat only plant foods and do not eat dairy or
>>   honey. They are a particular kind of vegetarian. Most of the
>>   vegetarians i know will eat such animal products as dairy and honey
>>   because they do not involve taking lives.
>>
>>> Standard vegetarians will eat fish
>>> once in a while.
>>>
>>> Lyse
>>
>>   Nope, nope, nope. Fish are not vegetables. To eat fish and other
>>   seafood involves taking life. I don't know a vegetarian who will
>>   eat them.
>>
>>   If someone eats fish, they are not a vegetarian. Let me add that i
>>   know a number of people who *for simplicity's sake* will say they
>>   are vegetarians, when they do not consider themselves to be so,
>>   because it's easier then explaining that they eat what vegetarians
>>   eat and they eat fish, but eschew meat from warm blooded land
>>   critters.
>>
>>   Fish amn't vegetables.
>>   -- Urtatim (that's err-tah-TEEM)
>>   the persona formerly known as Anahita
>>
>>   A vegetarian in the late 1960s and early 1970s who didn't eat fish
>>   and whose daughter has been a vegetarian since she was 12 and is  
>> now
>>   25
>>   she misses eating sushi but will not
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brioche!" / "If there's no bread to be had, one has to say, let them  
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"Confessions", 1782

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