[Sca-cooks] Vegetarians and Fish, was Christmas Plans (Was Cake Sotelties)
Sue Clemenger
mooncat at in-tch.com
Sat Dec 10 21:09:07 PST 2005
Actually, the egg's not a cell. Nor is it an undeveloped chicken fetus.
Closest equivalent, in human terms, is that part of the uterine lining that
is shed on a (generally) monthly basis in the years between menarche and
menopause....
--Maire
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius" <adamantius.magister at verizon.net>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Vegetarians and Fish,was Christmas Plans (Was Cake
Sotelties)
>
> On Dec 10, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Huette von Ahrens wrote:
>
> > Interesting about eggs. I can understand not eating fertilized
> > eggs, but hens lay eggs whether or not they have been with
> > a rooster and most eggs you buy in the supermarket haven't
> > even come close to being fertilized. How would eating an
> > unfertilized egg be killing a potential living creature?
> >
> > Huette
>
> While I agree (in that an unfertilized egg is a cell, not an
> organism), I guess it depends on how you interpret the word
> "potential". I suppose you can say that an unfertilized egg is much
> more of a potential living creature than, say, a paper clip or a
> rock. But then, discussions like this are rarely about making
> sense... ultimately, it's one of those "de gustibus non est
> disputandum" things.
>
> Adamantius
>
> >
> > --- Radei Drchevich <radei at moscowmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I ask because I have a Buddist monk friend<who no longer has a
> >> body, but
> >> that is another topic>. He would eat milk and cheese, but not
> >> eggs. As
> >> milk does not require the death of an animal, but eggs are
> >> underdeveloped
> >> chicken embryoes. Fish was not on his orders acceptable list.
> >>
> >> joy
> >>
> >> radei
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: lilinah at earthlink.net
> >> To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
> >> Subject: [Sca-cooks] Vegetarians and Fish, was Christmas Plans (Was
> >> Cake Sotelties)
> >> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:23:10 -0800
> >>
> >>
> >>>> Salmon is vegetarian?????
> >>>>
> >>>> joy
> >>>>
> >>>> radei
> >>
> >> My thoughts exactly. Last time i looked, one could not plant a fish
> >> in a garden (unless it had a pond)
> >>
> >>> uuuh...sure..yeah...haven't you heard of Sagetarians? :P
> >>
> >> Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...
> >>
> >>> Vegans are the hard core vegetarians.
> >>
> >> Wellllll, vegans eat only plant foods and do not eat dairy or
> >> honey. They are a particular kind of vegetarian. Most of the
> >> vegetarians i know will eat such animal products as dairy and honey
> >> because they do not involve taking lives.
> >>
> >>> Standard vegetarians will eat fish
> >>> once in a while.
> >>>
> >>> Lyse
> >>
> >> Nope, nope, nope. Fish are not vegetables. To eat fish and other
> >> seafood involves taking life. I don't know a vegetarian who will
> >> eat them.
> >>
> >> If someone eats fish, they are not a vegetarian. Let me add that i
> >> know a number of people who *for simplicity's sake* will say they
> >> are vegetarians, when they do not consider themselves to be so,
> >> because it's easier then explaining that they eat what vegetarians
> >> eat and they eat fish, but eschew meat from warm blooded land
> >> critters.
> >>
> >> Fish amn't vegetables.
> >> -- Urtatim (that's err-tah-TEEM)
> >> the persona formerly known as Anahita
> >>
> >> A vegetarian in the late 1960s and early 1970s who didn't eat fish
> >> and whose daughter has been a vegetarian since she was 12 and is
> >> now
> >> 25
> >> she misses eating sushi but will not
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