[Sca-cooks] eMail Issues [Was: computer question [Was: An open letter ... Mr.Flay]]

[Martin G. Diehl]

Greetings to 'Lainie and everyone else, 

This is a *very* good example of why we should know the 
difference between and correctly choose among, 

    "Reply to a topic" v. "Compose a new message" 

I saw your eMail question entirely by accident.  This instance 
epitomizes why you should have composed a new message with the 
subject and single topic, 'eMail/computer question'.  

This applies in general, as well.  

Please review and comment on all closing .SIGs, as well.  

Vent reached full open; Pressure release cycle complete.  <g> 

Sorry.  

"Laura C. Minnick" wrote:
> 
> At 05:47 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote:

[snip]

> >>'Lainie

[snip]

> >Adamantius

[snip]

> So- does anyone have any ideas about the following (gotta 
> say something before I start collecting *xpl*s*v*s): 

(oh goodey, now our recipes will be reviewed by the feds.  
Lainie, ya wern't supposed to saaaay that here.  <g>)

> mail I should be receiving from several Yahoo Groups in 
> bouncing. 

Poing, poing, poing!!! Ferret got into eMail server??? 
(The ferret would be Kiki, if you read http;//www.Sluggy.com 
... which seems to have gone slightly cthulhu, cthuloid) 

> Not all, about half. 35 messages since the 1st, to be 
> exact. The bounce error message listed on the page in 
> Yahoo preferences says:
> 
> Remote host said: 554 Service unavailable; Client host 
> [66.94.237.37] blocked using  bl.spamcop.net; Blocked - 
> see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?66.94.237.37 [RCPT_TO]

According to www.SamSpade.org, 
IP 66.94.237.37 _is_ n3a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com !!!

The SpamCop link you gave now says, 
"66.94.237.37 not listed in bl.spamcop.net"  

> I am mystified. It is not my outgoing mail that is being 
> blocked- it is incoming. I don't have SpamCop, neither 
> does my ISP. 
> It looks as though Yahoo is blocking it's own messages. 

[snip]

> Does anyone have any ideas, before I tear the rest of 
> my hair out?  

Yes.  Please read your .SIG again.   

Then read my translation at the end of this (my) message.  

Possibilities ... 

(1) some hacker 'poisoned' the SpamCop SPAM database 

(2) yahoo! got 'accidentally' listed as a SPAMmer (not an 
entirely bad idea actually)

(3) Someone who thinks he is an angel wants Yahoo! to 
change a policy ... just trying to get their attention.  

(4) Could be some eMail server between Yahoo! and your ISP 
-- look at the eMail headers to see how your incoming eMail 
is routed.  

(5) Your inbound headers look like 
[NOTE: date/time and read from bottom up] ... 

Received: from jade.spiritone.com (jade.aracnet.com
[216.99.193.136]) by blackstar.ansteorra.org 
(8.12.10/8.12.10/Ansteorra 0.1) with ESMTP id j0526JEV023264 for
<sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:06:20 -0600

Received: from YOUR-AA181C1FFA.jeffnet.org 
(216-99-218-31.dsl.aracnet.com [216.99.218.31]) by
jade.spiritone.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0526CTo011578
for <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:06:19 -0800

Also, your ISP may not have it's own eMail server.  

SamSpade.org says that jeffnet.org = IP 207.109.251.3 
and that mail.jeffnet.org = IP 207.109.251.3 

Tracert 207.109.251.3 says that 
IP 207.109.251.3 is email-inc.userservices.net

SamSpade.org says that IP 207.109.251.3 is really ... 

U S WEST Internet Services 
950 17th Street, Suite 1900
Denver, CO 80202 

U S WEST ISOps 
TechPhone:  1-612-664-4689 

Qwest  Communications 
Abuse, NOC, and Tech Phone:  1-877-886-6515

I'll bet that you didn't have those phone numbers ... right?  

(6) Yes.  There is a new antiSPAM initiative called 'SMTP + SPF' 
-- tr. Geek to English: 'Simple Message Transfer Protocol + 
Sender Policy Framework'

I'll let you know when I find out how to break ... errrrr ... 
ooooops, I meant to say, what corrections the new protocol 
needs so that is may coexist with the 'real world'.  

(7) I see nothing wrong with Ivory Tower types ... 

	as long as they *stay* 
	not come out to play.  

[thinking about rhyming schemes -- 
too much flaying the air]

> 'Lainie
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The penalty good men pay for not being interested in politics 
is to be governed by men worse than themselves. -- Plato  
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pending revision ... 
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The penalty good men pay for not being interested in how the 
internet works is to let men worse than themselves break it. 
-- MGD
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Vincenzo

-- 
Martin G. Diehl

http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=MGD

Reality: That which remains after you stop thinking about it.
  inspired by P. K. Dick