[Sca-cooks] Discussion of usage of capsicum peppers in Asia in ourperiod.

Craig Jones drakey at webone.com.au
Mon Jan 17 15:31:09 PST 2005


Um... What was the original question?  I can't seem to find the post.

Drakey - who got really bad news last night... 

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> From: sca-cooks-bounces+drakey=webone.com.au at ansteorra.org
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> cooks-bounces+drakey=webone.com.au at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Phlip
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2005 5:24 AM
> To: SCA-Cooks
> Subject: [Sca-cooks] Discussion of usage of capsicum peppers in Asia
in
> ourperiod.
> 
> Due to a question by a member of our list, I forwarded along a request
for
> information about potential usage of capsicum peppers in Asia during
our
> time period to Paul Buell and Gene Anderson. Apparently they arrived
> somewhere between 1500, when they were not known, and 1700 when they
were
> well established, and I had mentioned to Gene that we really couldn't
tell
> until we could get either recipes or possibly bills of lading from the
> time
> periods and cultures involved, and his reply added just a bit to our
> knowledge of period practices, so I thought I'd share it.
> 
> Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> 
> >     One big problem with evaluating capsicums or anything
> > else in China in the XVI-XVII centuries is the infuriating
> > tendency of the Chinese to give everything the name of a
> > familiar Chinese plant.  (Not that we would ever do that--
> > corn, pumpkin [now an American squash, originally a European
> > melon, pompion], etc., to say nothing of robin, blackbird,
> > vulture, buzzard, and dozens of other transfer names.)
> > Capsicum got slotted into either the long pepper or the
> > Chinese brown pepper categories.  Today la jiu,
> > literally "piquant brown-pepper," in Chinese.  And of course
> > calling it "brown pepper" when it really is a sort of citrus
> > relative is another ridiculous English transfer-name.  No
> > wonder we use scientific names.
> > best''g
> 
> Saint Phlip,
> CoD
> 
> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>  Blacksmith's credo.
> 
>  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
> cat.
> 
> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
> 
> 
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