[Sca-cooks] crabapples vs. apples

Radei Drchevich radei at moscowmail.com
Mon Jul 4 19:30:49 PDT 2005


Hortus Third : A Concise Dictionary of Plants Cultivated in the United
States and Canada

Staff of the L.H. Bailey Hortorium, Cornell University copyright 1976
Cornell University

  Malus

Mill. APPLE. Rosaceae. About 25 ssp. Of small. much-branched, deciduous,
trees or shrubs of the N. Temp. Zone; sometimes treated as a subgenus of
Pyrus, from which it is here distinguished by its soft, more or less
pubescent lf. Surfaces with acute rather than callous-tipped marginal
teeth, broad, pubescent or tomentose winter-buds, fl. Cluster
prevailingly simple without a columnar central stalk, pome lacking stone
cells or grit cells, calyx tube open in flowering and not closed about
the styles, which are more or less united basally.

Apples are grown for fruit and as ornamentals. The most important fruit
trees of cools temperate regions are the various descendants of Malus
pumila, the wild or original apple. The pomological crabs or crab apples
may be Malus baccata or derivatives, and a few hybrids have been produced
by crossing Malus ioensis with cultivated apples. The native crab apples
are sometimes grown as ornamentals, chiefly for their pink-white flowers.
The oriental crab apples of the Malus floribunda group are among the
choicest of small, hardy decorative trees with an abundance of showy
flowers and fruit. They may be budded on closely related stock or the
species grown directly from seeds.

Many of the binomials of cultivated apples are difficult to determine and
probably represent hybrid forms; in some cases they may be clones
perputuated asexually, or sometimes apomictically. For culture see Apple.

angustifolia (Ait) Michx. [pyrus angustifolia Ait.]. SOUTHERN WILD CRAB
A., AMERICAN CRAB, WILD C. Trees to 25 ft., fl. Branchlets and lvs. soon
glabrous; lvs. oblong to narrow-elliptic, round-tipped to
short-mucronate, firm, often evergreen, 1-3 in. long, pedicels glabrous;
fls. 1 in across, petals pink, fading to white; fr. To 1 ½ in. in diam.,
yellowish-green. Md. To Ky. And Mo., s. to Fla. and La.

there are many more entries, but none are north american species.  the
majority of the larger fruited crabs seem to be Asian in origin.  I can
provide all entries for genus Malus if you like.  The only crabapples I
have come in comtact with are of this discription.

joy

 radei



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Phlip
  To: "Cooks within the SCA"
  Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] crabapples vs. apples
  Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:59:39 -0400

  >
  >
  > Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
  >
  > > I would like to see the fruits you all are calling crabapples. I
  have
  > > never seen one larger than 1", I am thinking I am not talking
  about the
  > > same type that you are calling crabapples. Mine are marble sized
  and
  > > almost ripe now, probably have to do something with them within
  the next
  > > few weeks at the latest.
  > >
  > > joy
  > >
  > > radei
  >
  > From Ohio State University Fact Sheet
  > Horticulture and Crop Science
  > 2021 Coffey Road, Columbus, OH 43210-1086
  >
  > http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/1000/1029.html
  >
  > Fruit
  > Apples and crabapples are in the rose family, Rosaceae, in the
  genus Malus.
  > Crabapples are differentiated from apples based on fruit size. If
  fruit is
  > two inches in diameter or less, it is termed a crabapple. If the
  fruit is
  > larger than two inches, it is classified as an apple.
  >
  > Fruit is borne in the summer and fall. Colors range from
  dark-reddish
  > purples through the reds and oranges to golden yellow and even some
  green.
  > On certain selections the fruit can remain attractive well into the
  late
  > winter. The larger fruited cultivars offer a bonus because the
  fruit can be
  > spiced or used in jelly.
  >
  > Saint Phlip,
  > CoD
  >
  > "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
  > Blacksmith's credo.
  >
  > If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not
  a
  > cat.
  >
  > Never a horse that cain't be rode,
  > And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
  >
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