[Sca-cooks] Re: Serving and toasting

[Betsy Marshal]

I'm not sure if it is arranged, so much as it is what I have observed..
sometimes the toasts start right after serving, sometimes as late as the
middle of the feast- this latter more often when there is no royalty present
and the toasting is "in absentia". I have seen two gentles rise to give the
next toast, and the junior will defer to the senior in rank. It strikes me
as rather free-form and spontaneous, pre-arrangement might be advantageous,
if you can find the senior persons ahead of time, and they are all at the
feast.
Betsy
PS "Senior" squire is usually a member of the Centurions, as well.

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Subject: RE: [Sca-cooks] Re: Serving and toasting

Betsy commented:
> I am seeing some inter-kingdom Anthropology here-
> In Ansteorra- the senior knight toasts the King, the senior Don (light
> weapon/rapier) toasts the Queen, the senior squire toasts the Prince, 
> the
> senior cadet toasts the Princess, and (gets muddy here) the local
> herald or "home" peer will toast the hosting B&B(if any).

Thank you everyone for your comments on this SCA toasting. I had no 
idea that these were pre-arranged. Much less that there was quite a 
protocol of rank involved. I'm unlikely to ever meet these protocol 
requirements and if I ever overcome my "fear of not knowing what to 
say", I could have really embarrassed myself if I stood to give an 
impromptu toast and found out I was interfering with someone's 
pre-arranged toasting.

Stefan
(And yes, this thread will either find itself into the p-toasting-msg 
file in the Florilegium or into a renamed/new file, so that perhaps 
others may be forewarned about these traditions.)
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THLord Stefan li Rous    Barony of Bryn Gwlad    Kingdom of Ansteorra
    Mark S. Harris           Austin, Texas          
StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
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