[Sca-cooks] trenchers and the "mini Ice Age"

[Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius]

On Sep 27, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Carole Smith wrote:

> Actually, the not-to-be-eaten pie crust was still actively used as  
> late as the early 1900s (preWWII).  It has co-existed for some  
> centuries with other forms of pie crusts we are more familiar with,  
> such puff pastry and the short crust, if the recipes in Mrs.  
> Beeton's cookbook are to be trusted.
>
> Cordelia Toser

Well, okay. But why exactly would we trust recipes from the 1860's  
into the early 1900's ( I mean, we could, but is there a compelling  
reason?), and which of them is not intended to be eaten? Are you  
referring to the hot-water doughs?

Adamantius



>
> "Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius"  
> <adamantius.magister at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2005, at 2:25 AM, Stefan li Rous wrote:
>
>
>>>> written about later. Their use began declining after the 13th
>>>> Century and disappeared in the 17th Century.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Replaced to a great extent by sippets and toasts...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And what makes you think the sippets and toasts replaced trenchers?
>> Just because something goes out of fashion or taste while another
>> comes in, doesn't mean one replaced the other.
>>
>
> No, but when the second item is similar, or arguably similar, in both
> form, function, and substance, _and_ when there is neither a really
> significant overlap when both items were in widespread use nor a
> really significant gap wherein neither was used, I'd say it could
> easily be argued to be a case of replacement.
>
>
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