[Sca-cooks] Funeral foods ...

[Judith L. Smith Adams]

Annotated Alice... this is, quite coincidentally, the second time someone's mentioned Alice to me in the past 24 hours... Time for a re-read...
   
  This may be more than anyone wants to know, but PF give me the creeps.. I still have nightsmares of my (long ago and now long ex-) inebriated spouse singing along to "The Wall" as he danced and wove his way through the house...  the message being a personal punishment for me and very frightening to our then-toddler...  I have a VERY love-hate relationship with PF...  Love all that angst... but...
   
  For something completely different... Interesting the way Brit-speak lumps foods in categories a bit differently than in American:  "Meat" "Pud" "Sweet" and so on...  American course descriptions tend to be less economical, I think, though we do have "Dessert" "Cookie" as lump-it-in classes... maybe just not the same ones... 
   
  Judith, mumbling a bit and in need of caffeine transfusion

"Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius" <adamantius.magister at verizon.net> wrote:
  
On Apr 7, 2006, at 12:48 AM, Susan Fox wrote:

> On 4/6/06 7:51 PM, "Judith L. Smith Adams" 
> wrote:
>
>> So we have "sweetmeats" and "nutmeats" and flesh-meat, fish-meat, 
>> and ????
>> Any other such??!
>
> "White meats" meaning dairy foods.
>
> If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! [Pink 
> Floyd moment
> there, I'm back now.]

I believe somewhere in Martin Gardner's "The Annotated 
'Alice'" (which is, as the name implies, an copiously annotated 
edition of Lewis Carroll's books about Alice Liddell, or the first 
two, anyway), there's a lot of commentary about when the course 
structure of an English dinner changed. I forget the details, but 
apparently the order of service between the meat and the pudding was 
swapped one way or the other.

This actually makes some sense, if you view the pudding as an 
accompaniment to meat (say, Yorkshire pudding, often cooked alongside 
the meat, served with gravy, etc.), and used to bulk out/extend the 
meat itself, versus puddings used as desserts, as sugar and dried 
fruit become less like luxuries. At some point there's this shift...

But yes, I am now hearing, in my head, a voice like a drill-sergeant 
screaming, "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your 
meat???" To which I helpfully respond, "Well, see, sergeant-major, in 
the 19th century..."

etc., etc.

Adamantius (never much of a PF fan, and who used to sing "We don' 
need no steenkeeng badges" to that tune)




"S'ils n'ont pas de pain, vous fait-on dire, qu'ils mangent de la 
brioche!" / "If there's no bread to be had, one has to say, let them 
eat cake!"
-- attributed to an unnamed noblewoman by Jean-Jacques Rousseau, 
"Confessions", 1782

"Why don't they get new jobs if they're unhappy -- or go on Prozac?"
-- Susan Sheybani, assistant to Bush campaign spokesman Terry 
Holt, 07/29/04


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