[Sca-cooks] Really Spiffy Decorated Eggs
Radei Drchevich
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Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:23:09 -0400
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Kiri-san,
Teofilia tried to send this to you directly, but we got a bounce
message back, so I decided to send it here:
> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:17:09 -0400
> To: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1 at comcast.net
> From: Nancy Karat-May <Nancy.May at signofthetiger.com>
> Subject: Pysanky eggs
>
> Heard you were looking for documentation for Pysanky eggs.
> "POLISH CUSTOMS, TRADITIONS, & FOLKLORE " BY Sophie Hodorowicz Knab
> , Hippocrene Books, New York, revised edition , 1996
> page 100 "Pisanki were batik style eggs on which wax was carefully
> supplied in patterns with a stylus before they were placed in
> colored dyes. Other styles were known as Oklejane and Naleplanki,
> when the outside of the egg was decorated with a variety of
> materials such as colored paper or straw.
> Their origin can also be attributed to the early mystery plays,
> which began in Italy and spread slowly throughout Europe, and were
> especially popular in Poland during the time of Zygmunt III
> (1566-1632) "
> page 105 "As a symbol of fertility, the egg played a critical role
> in almost all customs and traditions throughout the year. Up until
> the middle 1800,s the elaborately decorated and ornamental eggs
> called Pisanki served as gifts in the Polish wooing and courtship
> process."
> Page 107"The oldest written knowledge of Pisanki at the grave side
> was documented in the life of St. Hedwig, which was penned after
> her canonization in 1267. The many miraculous healings attributed
> to this saint were documented by the wife of King Henryk Brodaty.
> who told the following story: When the son of a prominent judge
> was still unable to walk at eight years of age, his mother brought
> the boy to the grave of St. Hedwig in her arms and was praying to
> St. Hedwig to heal him when, lo!, a miracle happened. In the
> presence of the priest who baptized him and the abbess of the
> monastery, the boy suddenly; stood up, took an egg that lay before
> him and walked around the saint's grave. The abbess took other
> decorated eggs and threw them at the feet of the young boy,
> compelling him to walk further from the tomb. This miracle is said
> to have happened near Easter between 1274 and 1287."
>
> Author Rev. Czestaw Krysa, who is Associate Professor at the
> SS.Cyril and Methodius Seminary in Orchard Lake, Michigan, is an
> authority on Polish folklore and winner of the Oskar Kolberg award
> for 1991, Poland's most prized award in ethnography and folklore.
> Teofilia Karatkiewicz (Nancy Karat-May)
JehanYves
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> can anyone tell me where I can get the equiptment to do pysanky? I have
> been looking for a stylist for a very long time.
There's a place in NYC near Union Square that had pysanky supplies.
The stylus (kistka) they had wasn't exactly like mine, but looked
just fine. They also had dyes. I think the name was Surma.
Sandra _
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Radei Drchevich wrote:
> can anyone tell me where I can get the equiptment to do pysanky? I have
> been looking for a stylist for a very long time.
>
> joy
>
> radei
>
>
>
You might try the Earth Guild in Ashville, NC...they typically have
all sorts of craft stuff and I seem to remember that they had some.
Let me know if you don't find them there (check them out on the Web),
and I'll check with my protege to see where she got hers.
Kiri
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Pat Catan's Craft stores used to have them.
Jaime
Radei Drchevich <radei at moscowmail.com> wrote:
can anyone tell me where I can get the equiptment to do pysanky? I have
been looking for a stylist for a very long time.
joy
radei
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http://www.mccallisters.com/egg_decorating/ukranianeggs.htm
http://www.ukrainiangiftshop.com/
http://www.yevshan.com/index.asp
Also maybe of interest:
http://www.tryzub.com/Sofia_Zielyk/ETC/Book.html
My original kit came from a children's catalog at Easter time
one year.
Johnnae
Radei Drchevich wrote:
> can anyone tell me where I can get the equiptment to do pysanky? I have
> been looking for a stylist for a very long time.
>
> joy
>
> radei
>
>
>
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If Pearl Paint exists in your neighborhood, they have kits. Or try
your local crafts shop, especially around Easter.
Regards,
Brekke
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can anyone tell me where I can get the equiptment to do pysanky? I have
been looking for a stylist for a very long time.
joy
radei
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Subject: [Sca-cooks] Pysanky Eggs
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:23:09 -0400
>
>
>
> Kiri-san,
> Teofilia tried to send this to you directly, but we got a bounce
> message back, so I decided to send it here:
>
> > Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:17:09 -0400
> > To: Elaine Koogler > > From: Nancy Karat-May
> > Subject: Pysanky eggs
> >
> > Heard you were looking for documentation for Pysanky eggs.
> > "POLISH CUSTOMS, TRADITIONS, & FOLKLORE " BY Sophie Hodorowicz
> > Knab , Hippocrene Books, New York, revised edition , 1996
> > page 100 "Pisanki were batik style eggs on which wax was
> > carefully supplied in patterns with a stylus before they were
> > placed in colored dyes. Other styles were known as Oklejane and
> > Naleplanki, when the outside of the egg was decorated with a
> > variety of materials such as colored paper or straw.
> > Their origin can also be attributed to the early mystery plays,
> > which began in Italy and spread slowly throughout Europe, and
> > were especially popular in Poland during the time of Zygmunt III
> > (1566-1632) "
> > page 105 "As a symbol of fertility, the egg played a critical
> > role in almost all customs and traditions throughout the year.
> > Up until the middle 1800,s the elaborately decorated and
> > ornamental eggs called Pisanki served as gifts in the Polish
> > wooing and courtship process."
> > Page 107"The oldest written knowledge of Pisanki at the grave
> > side was documented in the life of St. Hedwig, which was penned
> > after her canonization in 1267. The many miraculous healings
> > attributed to this saint were documented by the wife of King
> > Henryk Brodaty. who told the following story: When the son of a
> > prominent judge was still unable to walk at eight years of age,
> > his mother brought the boy to the grave of St. Hedwig in her arms
> > and was praying to St. Hedwig to heal him when, lo!, a miracle
> > happened. In the presence of the priest who baptized him and the
> > abbess of the monastery, the boy suddenly; stood up, took an egg
> > that lay before him and walked around the saint's grave. The
> > abbess took other decorated eggs and threw them at the feet of
> > the young boy, compelling him to walk further from the tomb.
> > This miracle is said to have happened near Easter between 1274
> > and 1287."
> >
> > Author Rev. Czestaw Krysa, who is Associate Professor at the
> > SS.Cyril and Methodius Seminary in Orchard Lake, Michigan, is an
> > authority on Polish folklore and winner of the Oskar Kolberg
> > award for 1991, Poland's most prized award in ethnography and
> > folklore.
> > Teofilia Karatkiewicz (Nancy Karat-May)
>
> JehanYves
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:21:53 -0400
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You can always try the ethnic shops in the largest
city near you. Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, etc.
Start with the yellow pages and make some calls.
You might check for classes in and around Easter.
Mine came from Hearthsong but it's just a traditional kit and
can be found cheaper from other places.
http://www.hearthsong.com/hearthsong/product.do?section_id=0&bc=1005&pgc=781&cmvalue=HS|0|Normal%20Search%20Result|P2&
Johnnae
Radei Drchevich wrote:
> Thaks for that. but was kind of hopeing someone had a source that they
> like. Maybe best products, best price, that kind of thing
>
> joy
>
> radei
>
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Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 15:11:38 -0400
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One of my students is doing research on Psyanky, those lovely
Ukranian eggs that are decorated using a wax resist technique. She
is having a notable lack of success documenting them as being period.
There is nothing in the Domostroi, which isn't really surprising as
they are more Ukranian than Russian. She has contacted the Ukranian
National Museum and is still waiting for a response. Any other ideas
or sources for documentation that you guys can suggest? (Stefan, she
has already consulted your Florilegium...and the only information
there was sketchy, with no sources for what was being said. She
tried contacting the person wrote the entry and the e-mail addy
didn't work.)
Thanks!
Kiri
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> We have a lady here who does them, and basically, they are 200 years out of
> period and can't be documented. Colored eggs, yes. Pysanky, no. I heard a
> very well-reknowned Peli-Laurel say this weekend she would eat a pysanky egg
> if anything was ever found to tie them to period.
> Now, we all know that is a way to challenge the doc-gods if ever there was
> one, but I seriously doubt she'll have any further luck.
This is what I've collected so far
http://gallowglass.org/jadwiga/SCA/eggs/eggdyes.html
There is a resist method for eggs given in the 1594 Jewel-House of Art
and Nature, but it uses suet and vinegar.
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> From: "Elaine Koogler" <ekoogler1 at comcast.net>
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> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:22:38 -0400
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>
> Susan Fox wrote:
> > Mistress Renata, who is lurking on this list, taught a class in Pysanky a
> > few years ago and I'm itching to try it again. She may have tracked down
> > some doc by now.
> >
> > Important safety tip: since the eggs are properly done raw and not emptied
> > [apparently, that would let all the good luck out -- and on a practical
> > level, they would not stay immersed in the dye], it is very important that
> > you do not break the egg. You will know that the good luck has escaped
> > because of the pluperfectally ghastly smell!
> >
> > Selene [or is that Selenka Ivanova?]
> >
> You don't happen to know if she has documentation for their being a
> period art, do you? My apprentege has been looking for some
> documentation...with a notable lack of success. So any help you
> (or she) could provide would be deeply appreciated.
>
> Kiri
>
>
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