[Sca-cooks] Lenten ideas for non Christians...

[Radei Drchevich]

Ok, I understand now.  When I am on this list I think as Radei, and not as Dale.  I was thinnking the topic was Lent for Persona-Non-Christians, not Lent for Non-Christian-Mundanes with Christian Perosas.

Mudanely I was Raised Amish-Menonite/Athiest, My Persona is of course Russian Orthodox<early, still hints of the Pre-Christian-Russian world intact>.  I Practice meatless fridays<have for 18 years, though I am not Catholic, was married to one>.  

joy
radei

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue Clemenger" <mooncat at in-tch.com>
> To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Lenten ideas for non Christians...
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 23:30:16 -0700
> 
> 
> Thanks, Lainie, for putting me straight, geographically!  I am, indeed, in
> Artemisia.  In the cold part of Artemisia.  The
> minus-20-below-zero-tonight-and-that's-farenheit-and-none-of-your-wimpy-celc
> ius part of Artemisia.  There's at least one other person on the list with a
> similar name, though ("MairI" with the "I" and not the "E"), and she does
> live in Oz.  Oddly enough, I think we even have the same mundane first name.
> I swear, it's not a conspiracy.  Really, it's not! ;o)
> I didn't catch the original post (although I spent a very pleasant Saturday
> evening reading old blogs by the Yarn Harlot--gotta love Canadian
> humor....), so I'm going to assume that was a legit question, and not list
> weirdness....Pay attention, Radei....I'm doing this for my persona, silly
> man.  Not for Sue's religious practices, but Maire's.  Sue's path isn't much
> into fasting, even if it is very much into seasonal awareness and meditation
> and practicing mindfulness (thanks for the ideas, Johann!).  And while Sue
> has a fairly reasonable christian background (enough so that she can quote
> parts of the Bible with the best of them), she doesn't come from a tradition
> that makes a big deal of Lent.  She doesn't even come from a part of the
> country in which Catholics, or Greek or Russian Orthodox believers are even
> very common.  We have lots of Lutherans, though, and as a child, I was
> actually forced to eat lutefisk.  Once.  ;o) (obligatory food content)
> I'm not just doing this for the cool recipes, although food is certainly
> fun.  I'm doing this primarily for persona research (thanks, ladies for
> pointing that out), which is not something I've spent much time on, over
> lo-these-many years.  The longer I do this SCA thing, the more I'm
> discovering the real pleasure of doing more than just shrugging and calling
> something "good enough," whether it's my generic persona, or
> not-bad-but-not-very-authentic clothing, or my largely medievaloid feast
> experiences.  Secondarily,  I'm also quite willing to let my SCA-based
> knowledge and experiences influence and flavor my modern life.  If that
> means I not only gain a deeper appreciation of simple food, and the
> discipline involved in committing to abstinence in a world of
> over-abundance, but also a better understanding of what this season means to
> my christian friends, then all the better, no?
> Besides, the resident kitties like the idea of 40 days worth of fish. ;o)
> --Maire (Artemisian), off to bed so that she can get up at a reasonable hour
> tomorrow, and see if it's possible to knit socks and do recipe research at
> the same time.....
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laura C. Minnick" <lcm at jeffnet.org>
> To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Lenten ideas for non Christians...
> 
> 
> > At 08:53 PM 2/18/2006, you wrote:
> > >On 2/18/06 8:32 PM, "Radei Drchevich" <radei at moscowmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lent for non-Christians?  Isn't that like Oxegen for
> Methane-breathers?
> > > >
> > > > joy
> > > > radei
> > >
> > >That does sound counter-intuitive, doesn't it?
> >
> > Nahhh... ;-)
> >
> > >  But [1] Maire is putting
> > >some real effort into her SCA persona and that's worthy of praise.  I'm
> one
> > >of the very few Caidans that even seems to notice Lent, far less
> incorporate
> > >it into food planning for events - and I didn't grow up Christian in any
> > >way, Jewish family and all.
> >
> > I grew up in various fundamentalist churches- no Lenten observation, other
> > than the little kids waving construction-paper palms on Palm Sunday. My
> > parents thought Catholics were idolatrous, so most of medieval Christian
> > practice was completely off the map.
> >
> > >   It's all about really trying to look through
> > >Medieval eyes.
> >
> > YES! And I think that this sort of thing could be SO eye-opening for so
> > many SCAdians, to actually get a bit of a feel for something that was so
> > big a part of daily life! I've simply been trying to get a grip on what
> > daily sort of observances Elaine might have made in 1406- Lenten
> observance
> > is over and above that. But 40 days is more than a tenth of the year- a
> > pretty important chunk of it. Can we really understand medieval life
> > without it?
> >
> > >  [2] The winter sleep before the stirring of springtime is a
> > >good time for meditation on the cycle of life... Um, come to think of it,
> > >isn't Maire in Australia though?
> >
> > Nope! She's in Artemisia! (Montana)
> >
> > Interesting thought though- the opposition of Lent and Easter and the
> > autumn Down Under...
> >
> > Frankly, I'm really ready for spring to come...
> >
> > 'Lainie, tired of winter
> 
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