[Sca-cooks] Ot-weird server behavior-waiters.....
Sydney Walker Freedman
freedmas at stolaf.edu
Wed Feb 22 05:26:47 PST 2006
I did the same thing, and it has nothing to do with age. I'm a college
student! :)
Pax Christi,
Cecilia de Cambrige
>
> You know when I read that subject line I began to imagine all types of
> weird server behavior and NONE of it was on a computer.......showing my
> age......
>
> Suzanne
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> 1. Re: OT -- weird server behavior??? (margaret)
> 2. Re: OT -- weird server behavior??? (Sue Clemenger)
> 3. Persona question list (Stefan li Rous)
> 4. fruit juice syrups (Stefan li Rous)
> 5. Inntalkochbuch (Stefan li Rous)
> 6. Re: Inntalkochbuch and almond cheese (Margaret Rendell)
> 7. Re: OT -- weird server behavior??? (ysabeau)
> 8. Re: fruit juice syrups (Volker Bach)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:22:10 -0600
> From: "margaret" <m.p.decker at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] OT -- weird server behavior???
> To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
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> I've had these problems for several weeks. For the past three days, I
> haven't received anything from the list, but the list archive shows
> regular
> activity. Margaret is still receiving mail from the list, so I'm using
> her
> email. Go figure.
>
> The list server appears to be holding mail to the list, then sending out a
> batch about once a day probably ordering it on size rather than receipt
> when
> it sends it out.
>
> I've checked the spam filters at our ISP, the security software on our
> system, and anything else I could think of, but the problem appears to be
> at
> the Ansteorran server. I've also tried unsubscribing and re-subscribing,
> but that has been a bust.
>
> Bear
>
>> Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius wrote:
>>
>>> Hullo, the list!
>>>
>>> I'm receiving out-of-sequence messages from this list (as in receiving
>>> replies to posts that, in turn, arrive ~36 hours after the reply
>>> arrives
>>> in my mailbox), and the few posts I've made arriving via the list in
>>> my
>>> own mailbox 36 hours after they were sent.
>>>
>>> Anybody else? Gunthar, by any chance, are my messages having to be
>>> manually admin-approved for some reason? For several months my posts
>>> have taken a few hours to be posted to the list, but I think it's
>>> getting worse.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any info...
>>>
>>> Adamantius
>>
>> I've noticed a similar phenomenon...not sure what's going on.
>>
>> Kiri
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:22:14 -0700
> From: "Sue Clemenger" <mooncat at in-tch.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] OT -- weird server behavior???
> To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Message-ID: <00a301c6369e$654cc320$b7bfa6d8 at pavilion>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I'm not having any problems with it at all. Nee-ner, Nee-ner. ;o)
> --Maire, usually forever plagued with her own ISP issues
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "margaret" <m.p.decker at att.net>
> To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] OT -- weird server behavior???
>
>
>> I've had these problems for several weeks. For the past three days, I
>> haven't received anything from the list, but the list archive shows
> regular
>> activity. Margaret is still receiving mail from the list, so I'm using
> her
>> email. Go figure.
>>
>> The list server appears to be holding mail to the list, then sending out
>> a
>> batch about once a day probably ordering it on size rather than receipt
> when
>> it sends it out.
>>
>> I've checked the spam filters at our ISP, the security software on our
>> system, and anything else I could think of, but the problem appears to
>> be
> at
>> the Ansteorran server. I've also tried unsubscribing and
>> re-subscribing,
>> but that has been a bust.
>>
>> Bear
>>
>> > Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hullo, the list!
>> >>
>> >> I'm receiving out-of-sequence messages from this list (as in
>> receiving
>> >> replies to posts that, in turn, arrive ~36 hours after the reply
> arrives
>> >> in my mailbox), and the few posts I've made arriving via the list in
> my
>> >> own mailbox 36 hours after they were sent.
>> >>
>> >> Anybody else? Gunthar, by any chance, are my messages having to be
>> >> manually admin-approved for some reason? For several months my posts
>> >> have taken a few hours to be posted to the list, but I think it's
>> >> getting worse.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any info...
>> >>
>> >> Adamantius
>> >
>> > I've noticed a similar phenomenon...not sure what's going on.
>> >
>> > Kiri
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:57:09 -0600
> From: Stefan li Rous <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: [Sca-cooks] Persona question list
> To: SCA-Cooks maillist SCA-Cooks <SCA-Cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Message-ID: <AEAD2FF8-E7FF-4F02-8692-92E8FD00F594 at austin.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Christianna mentioned to Maire:
> >>>
> Write me privately at kingstaste at comcast.net and I'll send
> you the persona question list I give out at my persona building
> workshops. Lots of questions to think about. I can only answer about
> 25% for mine!
> <<<
>
> Sometimes these sorts of lists can be useful. I do have this one by
> Mistress Gunnora (often known as the Viking Answer Lady) but it is
> oriented more specifically to those with Norse personas:
> Vikng-Persona-wsh (8K) 12/21/01 A Viking Persona worksheet by
> Gunnora Hallakarva.
> http://www.florilegium.org/files/PERSONAS/Vikng-Persona-wsh.html
>
> Christianna,
> If you are willing, I might be interested in adding your persona
> question list to this PERSONAS section as well.
>
> thanks,
> Stefan
> --------
> THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
> Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas
> StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
> **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:22:55 -0600
> From: Stefan li Rous <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: [Sca-cooks] fruit juice syrups
> To: SCA-Cooks maillist SCA-Cooks <SCA-Cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Message-ID: <1C43CBAB-D410-4554-A966-A14D7DF5F4AC at austin.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Giano mentioned:
> >>>
> Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2006 03:20 schrieb otsisto:
> > Brainstormin' here
> > Apple cider. not sure if period but apples are.
>
> Gretman literature as far back as the 13th c knows something called
> "epfeldranc/epheldranc" which translates as 'apple drink'. This is
> usually
> assumed to have been a form of fermented cider. Unfortunately, no
> recipes I
> am aware of survive, and interestingly, by the later 15th century
> (when we
> get instructions) the fermented beverage made from apples is known as
> 'apple
> wine'. The only recipe for any 'dranc' that I know of makes a syrup.
>
> Make of it what you will, but apples used for making *some* kind of
> beverage
> are period. I'm guessing it's fermented.
> <<<
>
> So, why are you guessing it's fermented? You seem to be making a
> pretty good argument that there might indeed have been some non-
> alcoholic beverages in period Europe. It is my understanding that
> once you concentrate the fruit juice enough, that it creates and
> enviornment that neither the bad stuff or the good, fermenting sort
> of beasties will grow. This is why honey and sekanjaban syrup will
> keep, until diluted.
>
> It would be nice to know if there are any other references to "dranc"
> in the medieval German literature. I'm not sure we have to have a
> recipe for this "dranc". If it shows up in some literature of a
> drunken brawl, then it is likely alcoholic. Is there something like
> the OED for German?
>
> Stefan
> --------
> THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
> Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas
> StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
> **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:47:38 -0600
> From: Stefan li Rous <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: [Sca-cooks] Inntalkochbuch
> To: SCA-Cooks maillist SCA-Cooks <SCA-Cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Message-ID: <555D9262-6C45-44A3-A32D-DEBEC2208B93 at austin.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Giano commented:
> >>>
> Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 16:44 schrieb Susan Fox:
> > Dear Volker. I could lap this stuff up all day. Love your
> translations
> > and redactions, they are in really accessible modern English [unlike
> > some translators]. I think I will make the sauce of tart cherries at
> > the other end of the year when cherries are in season. On the other
> > hand, Lent will be upon us soon, might try out those sausages on my
> > friends.
>
> Make sure to also check out the Inntalkochbuch then, it has recipes
> for fish sausages for Lent.
> <<<
>
> I believe this Inntalkochbuch can be found here for those who might
> be interested:
> Inntal-art (32K) 6/29/05 An early 16th century recipe
> collection from
> Bavaria translated by Giano
> Balestriere.
> http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD-MANUSCRIPTS/Inntal-art.html
>
> More fish sausages can also be found in this file in the FOOD-MEATS
> section:
> sausages-msg (176K) 4/17/05 Period sausages. Making sausage.
>
> Stefan
> --------
> THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
> Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas
> StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
> **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:50:00 +1100
> From: Margaret Rendell <m_rendell at optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Inntalkochbuch and almond cheese
> To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Message-ID: <43FAE248.8010501 at optusnet.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Make sure to also check out the Inntalkochbuch then, it has recipes
>> for fish sausages for Lent.
>> <<<
>
> Also recipes for making cheese from almonds - is this bringing two
> threads together, or is this how we got to the Inntalkochbuch in the
> first place (I can't tell as I, too, am getting things weirdly out of
> order)
>
> Margaret/Emma
> Melbourne, Australia/Krae Glas, Lochac
>
>>
>> I believe this Inntalkochbuch can be found here for those who might
>> be interested:
>> Inntal-art (32K) 6/29/05 An early 16th century recipe
>> collection from
>> Bavaria translated by Giano
>> Balestriere.
>> http://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD-MANUSCRIPTS/Inntal-art.html
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:44:40 -0600
> From: "ysabeau" <ysabeau at mail.ev1.net>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] OT -- weird server behavior???
> To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>, <pug at pug.net>
> Message-ID: <200602210844.AA24117302 at mail.ev1.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I've been receiving messages out of order on several list through
> the "Ansteorran" Server (including Bryn Gwlad list). I didn't
> think to check for missing messages. I just figured it was my ISP
> being funky or that they had been downloaded on my home computer
> before I checked my webmail.
>
> Pug,
> Do you know anything about this?
>
> Thanks,
> Ysabeau
> P.S. I usually trim but wanted Pug to see the whole thing.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Sue Clemenger" <mooncat at in-tch.com>
> Reply-To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:22:14 -0700
>
>>I'm not having any problems with it at all. Nee-ner, Nee-ner. ;o)
>>--Maire, usually forever plagued with her own ISP issues
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "margaret" <m.p.decker at att.net>
>>To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
>>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] OT -- weird server behavior???
>>
>>
>>> I've had these problems for several weeks. For the past three
> days, I
>>> haven't received anything from the list, but the list archive
> shows
>>regular
>>> activity. Margaret is still receiving mail from the list, so
> I'm using
>>her
>>> email. Go figure.
>>>
>>> The list server appears to be holding mail to the list, then
> sending out a
>>> batch about once a day probably ordering it on size rather than
> receipt
>>when
>>> it sends it out.
>>>
>>> I've checked the spam filters at our ISP, the security software
> on our
>>> system, and anything else I could think of, but the problem
> appears to be
>>at
>>> the Ansteorran server. I've also tried unsubscribing and re-
> subscribing,
>>> but that has been a bust.
>>>
>>> Bear
>>>
>>> > Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hullo, the list!
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm receiving out-of-sequence messages from this list (as
> in receiving
>>> >> replies to posts that, in turn, arrive ~36 hours after the
> reply
>>arrives
>>> >> in my mailbox), and the few posts I've made arriving via
> the list in
>>my
>>> >> own mailbox 36 hours after they were sent.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anybody else? Gunthar, by any chance, are my messages having
> to be
>>> >> manually admin-approved for some reason? For several months
> my posts
>>> >> have taken a few hours to be posted to the list, but I think
> it's
>>> >> getting worse.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for any info...
>>> >>
>>> >> Adamantius
>>> >
>>> > I've noticed a similar phenomenon...not sure what's going on.
>>> >
>>> > Kiri
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:17:31 +0100
> From: Volker Bach <carlton_bach at yahoo.de>
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] fruit juice syrups
> To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
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> Am Dienstag, 21. Februar 2006 07:22 schrieb Stefan li Rous:
>> Giano mentioned:
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2006 03:20 schrieb otsisto:
>> > Brainstormin' here
>> > Apple cider. not sure if period but apples are.
>>
>> Gretman literature as far back as the 13th c knows something called
>> "epfeldranc/epheldranc" which translates as 'apple drink'. This is
>> usually
>> assumed to have been a form of fermented cider. Unfortunately, no
>> recipes I
>> am aware of survive, and interestingly, by the later 15th century
>> (when we
>> get instructions) the fermented beverage made from apples is known as
>> 'apple
>> wine'. The only recipe for any 'dranc' that I know of makes a syrup.
>>
>> Make of it what you will, but apples used for making *some* kind of
>> beverage
>> are period. I'm guessing it's fermented.
>> <<<
>>
>> So, why are you guessing it's fermented? You seem to be making a
>> pretty good argument that there might indeed have been some non-
>> alcoholic beverages in period Europe. It is my understanding that
>> once you concentrate the fruit juice enough, that it creates and
>> enviornment that neither the bad stuff or the good, fermenting sort
>> of beasties will grow. This is why honey and sekanjaban syrup will
>> keep, until diluted.
>
> I think it is fermented because it fits the pattern (ale is fermented,
> beer is
> fermented, wine is fermented...) and because by the time we have firmer
> data,
> apple wine (a fermented drink) is a mass market product. I think it's just
> a
> case of an earlier practice continuing, and a new name being used.
>
> At the same time, I'm not convinced that *all* apple-based beverages were
> fermented. Just the majority.
>
>> It would be nice to know if there are any other references to "dranc"
>> in the medieval German literature. I'm not sure we have to have a
>> recipe for this "dranc". If it shows up in some literature of a
>> drunken brawl, then it is likely alcoholic. Is there something like
>> the OED for German?
>
> There is, the 'Grimmsches Wörterbuch' (yes, the same as the fairy tale
> guys).
> I even bought a CD copy, but can't currently run it, so checking isn't
> going
> to be that easy. But I have this whole 'dranc' thing on the back burner.
>
> Unfortunately, 'dranc' according to my Middle High German dictionary means
> 'beerage', 'drink' and 'potion', so mentions will be many. I think the
> main
> item of interest will be the compound form (something-drancs).
>
> If i find the time, or can convince some to let me do 'Medieval German
> Foodways' as a PhD :-)
>
> Giano
>
>
>
>
>
>
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