[Sca-cooks] FW: [SCA-Herbalist] Cooking contest

[Mike C. Baker]

Stefan, this goes a distance, but not the full league:  what of those
kingdoms which do not present the Laurel as being specific to any
particular field?

To expand your list of comparisons, I can think also of A&S competitions
which refuse to accept Laurel's entries unless they are in a form that
said Laurel has been pursuing for less than X months (or some other
similar restriction which still relies upon the honor of the entrant to
comply with -- and leaves in the air such possible oddities as the
individual taught a form in their youth, hasn't used it in <mumble>
years, and decides to pick it up again...)  

What need be remembered somewhere in all this is that they who organized
the contest chose the rules format (for that contest...)  Appeals to
those good gentles are of most important in the instant circumstance --
and our energies here best expended toward influencing future (or
additional) planned matchups.

Amra and his drei pfennig,
Rabble-rousing
 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:sca-cooks-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of 
> Stefan li Rous
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:37 PM
> To: SCA-Cooks maillist SCA-Cooks
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] FW: [SCA-Herbalist] Cooking contest
> 
> Maire replied to me with:
> <<< I thought it just said no Cooking Laurels? Big "C," as in 
> people laureled for cooking, rather than small "c" ones like 
> me, who happen to be laurels that cook, but who were 
> recognized for other arts (late-period needlework and 
> costuming, in my case.  I think. <g>) >>>
> 
> I don't remember what the rules said exactly, now.
> 
> However, I think even if the rule says no "cooking Laurels", 
> I think it still eliminates a number of the good cooks from 
> this list, and from an SCA-Cooks team.
> 
> I can understand some reasons behind such rules, however it 
> does bring up questions on such exclusions. I suspect we have 
> folks on this list, and elsewhere, who would have gotten a 
> Laurel for their cooking, except they were already Laurels 
> for something else. Is it fair to the other teams that these 
> folks are allowed to participate as team contestants while 
> those that got their Laurel in cooking can not? Is it fair to 
> the Laurels who got their award for cooking to be excluded?
> 
> As a comparison, past Crowns are not excluded from fighting 
> in additional Crown Tournies.  In fact, they are encouraged 
> by allowing them to withdraw in the middle of the tournament 
> for no reason, other than having eliminated an opponent they dislike.
> 
> They are a few tournaments in which Knights and Men-at-Arms 
> are not allowed, such as the unbelted Champions Battle(s) at 
> Pennsic. But in general Knights can enter any tournament 
> regardless of their rank, against supposedly lessor skilled opponents.
> 
> Stefan
> Troublemaker
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