[Sca-cooks] Harvest times

[Lisa]

I honestly don't remember the reasoning for only bread being given during
communion to laity, but I do know that it does go back to medieval times.  I
THINK that communion in both forms was reserved for the clergy due to their
"greater holiness and greater ability to experience the full communion with
christ," but that was one of hte changes that was made with Vatican 2, the
pop didn't believe that anyone was any more holy or better able to
experience full communion with christ, regardless of their status as either
clergy or laity, as many saints were not at any point in their lives clergy.
There are still places that refuse to give the sacrament in both forms, but
those areas also tend to refuse to accept the majority of the changes made
with Vatican 2.

Elizabeta of Rundel

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From: "Stefan li Rous" <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
To: "SCA-Cooks maillist SCA-Cooks" <SCA-Cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Harvest times


> <<<
> As a former Catholic, I can answer this one.  It depends on whether
> you're
> talking pre or post vatican 2.... pre vatican 2, lay persons were not
> given
> both forms of communion, post vatican 2, both forms of communion are
> offered
> to everyone, clergy and laity both.
>
> Elizabeta of Rundel
>
>  > I haven't read the book, nor am I a Catholic, but I was under the
>  > impression that Catholic laity are not given the wine during
>  > communion.
>  >>>
>
> Oh! My experience with this was being brought up in the Episcopal
> Church (Catholic Lite, I've heard it called here. :-) ) but until
> seeing these messages it never occurred to me that they wouldn't give
> out both sacraments.
>
> What was the reasoning for this prior to Vatican 2? Did this go back
> to medieval times? What was the reasoning on making a change in/after
> Vatican 2?
>
>  From a food aspect, I was less than impressed by either. The white,
> pasty, wafer that sticks to the top of your mouth like white, (over)
> processed bread or the sharp wine. But then, even today I prefer cold/
> cool, white to tepid, red wines.
>
> Stefan
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