[Sca-cooks] medicinal recipies

Suey lordhunt at gmail.com
Tue Nov 14 05:48:13 PST 2006

Whether camphor called for in the Anonymous Andalusian Cookbook of the 
Thirteenth Century is from camphor resin or from a tree related to 
cinnamon or camphor from elecampane is too technical for the Huici or 
Perry translations as no explanation is provided except in in Huici´s 
translation of the recipe "Camphor from Basil," see CXVI on page 141.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> On 13 Nov 06 Elaine Kogggler wronte:
> I have no idea...the recipes are from a 14th c. book and simply state
> "camphor" and "musk"...maybe Urtatim or one of our other ME experts has an
> idea???
> Kiri
> On 11/12/06, Sydney Walker Freedman <freedmas at stolaf.edu> wrote:
>> Is the recipe referring to camphor resin (from a tree in the related to
>> cinnamon) or to the camphor from elecampane?  I thought it referred to the
>> former.  Any ideas?
>>> aibhilin commented:
>>> <<< I have not tried this one but I have worked with edible camphor.
>>> make sure
>>> you get it from a good East Indian shop and tell them it is to eat.
>>> They
>>> will make sure you get the right stuff. There are several different
>>> ways to
>>> process campor, and some should not be ingested.>>>
>>> Ummm. Yes, looking at the comments on processing camphor, it does
>>> sound like you want to make sure you get the stuff processed to
>>> ingest if you are going to use it in food.
>>> There are a number of comments on camphor in this Florilegium file,
>>> including the message I've included here.
>>> gums-resins-msg   (32K)  8/31/03    Period use of plant gums and
>>> resins. Myrrh,
>>>                                         mastic, frankincense, camphor.
>>> http://www.florilegium.org/files/PLANTS/gums-resins-msg.html
>>> -----
>>> [Submitted to the Florilegium by: "Philippa Alderton" <phlip at
>>> bright.net>]
>>> From: Gaylin Walli <g.walli at infoengine.com>
>>> To: herbalist at Ansteorra.ORG
>>> Subject: Re: HERB - 'syropp of ela campane'
>>> Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 9:29 AM
>>> Phlip asked:
>>>  >Any ideas, folks?
>>> This is how I would look at it.
>>> 'syropp of ela campane' would probably be a syrup of the plant
>>> elecampane, often called Elfwort or Scabwort. The botanical of
>>> this plant is Inula helenium (L.) I think. One of the major
>>> constituents of the plant is the volitale oil "helenin" which
>>> is sometimes called "elecampane camphor." Camphor, throughout
>>> history, has been used to treat the symptoms of any of the
>>> numerous kinds of arthritis, including rheumatoid arthritis.
>>> An excellent write-up on Elecampane can be found in M. Grieve's
>>> (OOP) herbal online at
>>> http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/e/elecam07.html
>>> and this writeup includes pointers to period sources (including
>>> Gerard, Culpepper, and others) which may be of use to the SCAdian
>>> or recreator in tracking down the origins of the syrup's creation.
>>> Jasmine
>>> Jasmine de Cordoba, Midrealm, g.walli at infoengine.com
>>> -----
>>> Stefan
>>> --------
>>> THLord Stefan li Rous    Barony of Bryn Gwlad    Kingdom of Ansteorra
>>>     Mark S. Harris           Austin, Texas
>>> StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
>>> **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at:  http://www.florilegium.org ****
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