[Sca-cooks] Pie Shapers: Was Speaking of Beets

Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius adamantius.magister at verizon.net
Fri Sep 8 13:05:24 PDT 2006


On Sep 8, 2006, at 2:49 PM, otsisto wrote:

> I have been told many o' times that 1601 onward is out of our period.

It depends on who you talk to, and sometimes even what you're  
specifically talking about. In general, the SCA's cutoff is pre-17th- 
century, but some kingdoms impose an early-cutoff-date for things  
like A&S competition rules (which I think is silly, but hey), and  
most don't enforce a late-end cutoff as long as the Renaissance is  
still more or less going on. The issue is clouded by the fact that  
many 17th-century books contain content (including recipes) that were  
current at the tail end of the 16th century (Gervase Markham's stuff  
apparently falls into this category, and so, to a lesser extent,  
perhaps, does Digby).

> Interestingly enough majority of them research the Middle Ages and  
> a few of
> them think that SCA should have the end date at 1500 (if not earlier).

Yes, well, if the SCA is for High Middle Ages only then I'm out of  
luck, too. Luckily, no such exclusivity is maintained by most SCAdians.

> So yeah, 17th century is what I was meaning a somewhat OP. The pies  
> above
> the chewitts are from 1600s molds. As to which end of the 1600s, it  
> does
> say.

I'm sorry, did you mean "does not say"? I mean, only because as far  
as I can tell, it doesn't. But maybe I'm just dense ;-). From what I  
can see there, though, it appears from the names listed as sources,  
that these are probably pretty late, yes. It's conceivable that May's  
recipes are [approximately] from before the end of the SCA's period,  
as Johnnae points out.

> Also, some of the drawing will change when you run the mouse over  
> it. Like
> the fish mold drawing above the chewitt mold drawing.
> De/Lyse
> Changing name, should end up being Delis but if some bizarre reason  
> I missed
> something in the docs. the back up is Fiordelisia. either way (De)

And here I was thinking, "Delis... mmmmm... sopressata... pickled  
herring... slobbergargle..."

Adamantius



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