[Sca-cooks] Thank You

[Elaine Koogler]

I'm glad he responded so quickly.  He is extremely knowledgeable about
things Russian...and unlike other translators I've known, has delved into
the cultural and historical aspects of Russian society.  Incidentally, he is
also a superb brewer...received his AoA level Order of the Coral Branch at a
local event last weekend.

Kiri


On 4/17/07, King's Taste Productions <kingstaste at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks to Mistress Kiri, here is the most detailed and erudite answer I
> received.  (If you are truly interested to see the image of the card,
> email
> me and I will send it to you)
> Christianna
>
>
> Hello!
>
> Yes, that's a Christmas card, to Lidia; I can't make out the rest of the
> handwriting at a cursory glance.  The card itself dates probably from the
> early 1900's, possibly *slightly* earlier; one of the letters used, and
> how
> it's used, was stricken from the Cyrillic Alphabet in about 1912 or
> thereabouts.  That's the short answer...
>
> The long answer is:  The Russian style is to 'congratulate' you on the
> occurrence of whatever holiday; in Russian, it's "I congratulate you with
> (insert holiday)."   This is generally shortened to "with + (insert
> holiday)," leaving the congratulations implied.  In Russian, Christmas is
> literally the "Birth of Christ," transliterated "Rozhdestvo Khristosa."
> This one uses an older, more "church-style" word for Christ, and (using
> the
> "with X" formula above) puts the whole thing into instrumental case (as is
> proper for Russian): "S Rozhdestvom Khristovym."  The written bit is,
> literally, "I congratulate you, Lidia (in memory of the albumist)
> -[signed]".  Lidia is in a familiar form, so I'd guess it's from a parent,
> grandparent, or otherwise close family member.
>
> Hope this helps!  If there are any other questions, please feel free to
> ask.
>
> S Uvazheniem (Respectfully),
> --Mikhail Novgorodets
> Russian, Barony of Lochmere
> (MKA Michael Suggs, Russian Linguist)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sca-cooks-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:sca-cooks-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Carol Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:10 PM
> To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Thank You
>
> So what was it?  Now you've left US hanging!
>
> Laughing regards,
> Brekke
>
>
> >From: "King's Taste Productions" <kingstaste at comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >To: "SCA Cooks" <Sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>,"Tavern Yard"
> ><meridian-ty at yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Sca-cooks] Thank You
> >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:58:23 -0400
> >
> >The Russian Christmas Card puzzle has been solved.  Many thanks to the
> >outpouring of knowledge, what a great group ;)
> >
> >Christianna
> >
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