[Sca-cooks] Feudal model was Wikipedia article on Medieval Cuisine

Breila Lyman lady_breila at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 1 22:32:37 PDT 2007

Well, I could reeeeallllly pick nits with you and say that the term "Feudal" is not period to SCA, but rather a post-Enlightenment invention, and not much of a useful model outside of early Medieval France, as I understand it.  (My area of research is medieval theology, so I'm still deconstructing this deconstruction, you might say...)
  But okay, I will give you that the term "Dark Ages," being a 14th century invention, is an acceptable historiographical reference that is in period to SCA.  However, it's late period only, so the folks in T-Tunics may not use the term.  <removing tongue from cheek now... and ducking>
  As for the textbooks... sigh... I'm a world history teacher, so don't get me started.  Publishers love feudalism.  It's so concise and painless and pliable.  Personally, I've always wanted to put together a professional development piece entitled "How to Not Teach Feudalism in your Medieval Europe Unit."  Someday... someday....
  But your trencher reference is certainly interesting, and I've found a couple sources I'd like to read concerning the social norms of using trenchers... and who knows, maybe I'll manage to keep this post on topic somehow!
  Nice talking with you!
  Breila  :-)
  ... returning to lurkdom...

Terry Decker <t.d.decker at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
  Actually, the feudal model and the manorial system have some interesting 
effects on dining (including the use of trenchers). There is also the very 
interesting question of how the feudal system changed due to the reduced 
grain harvests at the beginning of the little Ice Age. Everything tends to 
be interconnected and grist for the mill.

As for "Dark Ages," why that's what those scholars left sitting in my grade 
school textbooks. If they don't want the term used, they shouldn't be so 
careless. They also must be jealous of Francesco Petrarcha, who got there 
before them.


> Yep, that's about right... eras are very fluid and really depend on the 
> historian labeling them and the reason they need to be labeled. Happens 
> on the other end, too, with Late Medieval and Early Modern. Just as long 
> as you don't insist on using "Dark Ages".... scholars get really tetchy 
> about that one! The whole Feudal model used to define Medieval is also up 
> for grabs... but that's another discusssion for another mailing list.
> In the meantime, as I am a novice cook, I'll sit back and enjoy the 
> discussion about oil going "kaboom"... :-)
> ATB,
> Breila

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