[Sca-cooks] Cooking Help Please!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lisa silvina at allegiance.tv
Wed Jan 3 06:12:14 PST 2007

Joshua, from a beginner to medieval cooking myself, politeness works a lot
better here than demands and exclamations.  Your requests were pretty
ambiguous and you seem to refuse to respond to requests for more
information.  To give you a bit of a reason for a need for more specific
information, many of the recipes discussed here range from middle eastern to
early russian, early german, all the way through Elizabethan times in
various countries.  Different areas bring different recipes and these
recipes change and develop over the years, often becoming new recipes.  With
more and more interaction between different areas, new cuisines were
introduced to the different areas.  Therefore, a specific time period and/or
a specific area would give us a better chance of giving you the information
you seek.  Medieval recipes in general covers way too many time periods and
way to many areas for us to be able to assist you with your request.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elaine Koogler" <kiridono at gmail.com>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Cooking Help Please!!!!!!!!!!!!

> I think that's what most of us were trying to do.  Several of us did point
> you to places on the Web where you can find period recipes.  It's not that
> we're trying to be rude...we just want to be able to help you in a way
> will be useful to you.  Also, as you asked about materials that are
> copyrighted, it appeared to us that you were gathering material to publish
> book of period recipes...and if you published work that we have done, and
> you copyrighted it, that would mean that we would not be able to benefit
> from our own work!  We have had things like that happen...some time back,
> Emeril used material he got from Duke Cariadoc's Web site on his show
> without giving David Friedman any credit for it at all (Cariadoc is
> SCA persona).
> We did ask questions in an effort to figure out how best to help you.
> Firstly, we're dealing with a time frame of 500 - 700 years, and foods
> really did change in that length of time.  In addition, we're talking
> cultures that range from northern Europe through the Middle East to the
> East...and there are folks on this list who specialize in various times
> places.  Finally, we wanted to find out your level of experience with
> cooking...are you an expert chef...or someone who doesn't know how to boil
> water.  Our problem was that yu never answered our questions...in fact,
> still haven't answered them!
> Probably the best place to go for information, if you just want to browse
> information about period cooking...and see some redactions of period
> recipes, you can try Stefan's Florilegium (www.florilegium.org).  If you
> look in the 'Foods' section, you will find all kinds of information about
> period cooking...from how to read and redact (taking a period recipe,
> figuring out quantities and directions on how to cook a dish) recipes to
> specifics about food history, etc.
> We are here to help...we all work together and there's a vast store of
> knowledge amongst the denizens of this list...there are professional
> published authors in food history, etc.  And all of this is available to
> you.  Just please don't yell at us..which is what most of us interpret
> in all caps as being...not to mention all those exclamation marks.
> So.  Is there a particular cuisine or time period you're interested in?
> you collecting recipes in order to publish them as a
> collection/cookbook...and is this why you are concerned about copyright?
> Are you an experienced cook or just starting out?  When you answer our
> questions, we'll be better equipped to help you.
> Kiri
> On 1/3/07, Joshua McCoy <myrddin at nerdshack.com> wrote:
> >
> > In regards to what I am reading with some of the replys.  I will say
> > I will give credit where credit is do.  Also I am just tring to learn
> > about period specific cooking.  I am still flepen new to this suff
> > folks.  So please cut me some slack.  I do understand what all of your
> > points are.  I do not have any direction or clear way to ask untill I
> > what I need.  If you need more information ask it in a form of a
> > please.  I AM JUST A BEGENER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  GET THE
> > POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > From,
> > Joshua
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