[Sca-cooks] Juana la Loca

Daniel & Elizabeth Phelps dephelps at embarqmail.com
Wed Feb 27 10:01:42 PST 2008

Regards Juana  as the victum of a "male plot" I seem to recall reading 
Fits of near homicidal rage at other women whom she viewed as rivals for her 
husband's affection even after his death.
Refusal to allow the burial of her dead husband.
Attempts return her dear hubby to life through magic(?).
A madcap moonlight trek across Spain with the cadaver of her husband in tow.

This does not suggest to me that she was a model of sanity even viewed 
against the remarkable excentricities exhibited by other European, most 
notably the French, royalty.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ana Valdés" <agora158 at gmail.com>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Juana la Loca

Juana was definitely not mad but the victim of a "male" conspiration
where her father, Ferdinand, her husband Philip and her son Charles
used her as a pawn.
The "guerra de las comunidades" in Castilla, between 1520 and 1521,
was a rebellion against Charles and his cardinal Cisneros. And sorry
Charles did not speak Castilian when he come 1517, he learned it
later, when the Cortes in Castilla demanded it from him to crown him.
 "After the death of Ferdinand II in 1516, his grandson Charles became
King of Castile and Aragon in co-regency with his mother, the mentally
unstable Queen Juana of Castile. Charles, inexperienced and young,
brought up in Flanders, modified the government and entrusted
important positions to foreigners he had brought with him. His
government denied solicitations by the Castilians. The province of
Castile itself was in difficulties due to poor harvests and efforts by
the nobility to reestablish power that had been lost under Isabella's
rule. Charles' ambitions in Europe resulted in heavy taxation and
people recognized that this money was spent elsewhere. After an
expensive election Charles was named Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
and, in the following year, he left Spain to assume his new reign. His
mentor, Adrian of Utrecht (the future Pope Adrian VI) was left as
regent. With more demands for money, rebellion soon broke loose."

The Mexican writer Carlos Fuentes wrote a marvelous novel about Juana
and her love for her dead husband Philip, "Terranostra".


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Suey <lordhunt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ana Valdes wrote:
>  > Juana la Loca was inprisoned in a cloister for many years and it was
>  > her son, Charles the l of Spain and the V of Austria and the Holy
>  > Roman Empire, who ruled in her name. He was born in the 1500. When he
>  > come from Flanders to Spain he didn't speak a word Castilian  and
>  > ruled through his Flemish ministers and cardinals. The cities of
>  > Castilla started a rebellion and were subjuged. Charles abdicated 1555
>  > in favor of his son Philip the ll. During Juanas madness and
>  > incapacity Spain (or Castilla and Aragon and Navarra and many other
>  > smaller kingdoms and fiefs) were ruled by her father Ferdinand and for
>  > her son with a Council of Regency.
>  >
>     The extent to which Juana was crazy is debatable. She could have
>  been totally mad or simply a victim of migraine headaches like her
>  grandmother.
>     Ferdinand ruled Castile in her name but Aragon and Navarra in his
>  until his death in 1516. Then Charles shared the kingship with her. All
>  documents requiring the king or queen's signature had to be and were
>  signed by her as well as Charles. Juana died in 1555 and he ruled in his
>  own right for one year as he abdicated in 1556. A requirement of the
>  Cortes was that he speak Spanish which he learned (badly) when he came
>  to Spain. He spoke five languages, French was his mother tongue. It was
>  his father Philip the Handsome who did not speak Spanish and who brought
>  Flemish ministers and cardinals to Castile. Ferdinand and Castellans did
>  did not like that. He died suddenly after a soccer match in Burgos in
>  1506 one year after Isabel died of breast cancer.
>  Suey
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