[Sca-cooks] Prayers for recipe timing
david at vastrepast.com
Thu Jun 5 10:07:51 PDT 2008
In The Epulario (English 1598 translation of early 1500's Italian
Epulario based on the Martino Corpus) there is a recipe for using a
prayer for timing. "Let them not boil above the space of three Pater
Entry # 50) To make a kind of made meat in flesh time. It is attached
It is not included in the same recipe in De Honesta (Bk VII, entry 50
Meat Balls). Platina just says "they require little cooking".
Also recipe #251 "To seeth eggs" (attached below) also includes
prayer instructions. "And make it boil a Pater noster while".
Again this is not included in the De Honesta version of the recipe
(Bk IX entry, 32 Another), but I am fairly sure that at least in the
LCMartino it is included.
Those are the only two references in the Epulario.
I do not have the other source materials handy to check. The seven
sources I usually check and consider when look at a Martino Corpus
recipe are 1) Martino, MS Library of Congress (LCMartino) 2) Martino,
MS Vatican (VatMartino) 3) Martino, Riva del Garda (Riva) 4) Platina,
De Honesta Voluptate (Platina…tr..Milham) 5) Martino Bühler 19
(Bühler) 6) Rosselli, Epulario (Rosselli) 7)Epulario (EP1598). INote
that the Buhler manuscript is the one referred to on this list as
"The Neapolitan Collection".
50) To make a kind of made meat in flesh time.
Take a pound of old cheese, and a little new cheese, and a
pound of the belly or paunch of a fat Hog, or a Cowes Udder
sod, then take good hearbes well beaten, Pepper, Cloves, and
Ginger, adding thereto the flesh of the breast of a Capon wel
beaten, and all these thinges being well tempered and mixed
together, then make a good past, and lay all ths in the past, and
make them no bigger than halfe a Chestnut, then fry them in
Capons grease or other fat broth, and make thé yellow with
Saffron, let them not boile above the space of three Pater
nosters, then dish them, and straw them over with grated
Cheese, mixed with other spices. The like may bee made of
Feisants, Partridges, and other Fowle.
251) To seeth Egges with the shell.
Put them in cold water, and make it boyle a Pater noster
while, and then take them out.
Food is life. May the plenty that graces your table truly be a VAST
david at vastrepast.com
On Jun 5, 2008, at 5:11 AM, James of the Vayle wrote:
> There is at least one in the Libre del Coch
> 130. Meat or Fish PASTRY
> EMPANADA DE CARNE O DE PESCADO
> And then return it to the oven for the space of a Paternoster and
> an Ave
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Saint Phlip <phlip at 99main.com> wrote:
>> Could anyone who happens to know which recipes direct me to the
>> recipes that used various prayers for timing? There seems to be a
>> similar usage going on in period smithing, and we'd like to look into
>> it more.
>> Saint Phlip
>> Heat it up
>> Hit it hard
>> Repent as necessary.
>> It's the smith who makes the tools, not the tools which make the
>> .I never wanted to see anybody die, but there are a few obituary
>> notices I have read with pleasure. -Clarence Darrow
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