[Sca-cooks] Help with Translation - Freses

Johnna Holloway johnnae at mac.com
Wed Sep 17 14:54:55 PDT 2008

Try Froissart

duke Aubert of Bauier / erle of Heynalte / of Holande and of zelande / 
and also by his sonne Wyllm? of Bauyere / who writeth hym selfe lorde of 
Frese / whiche is a great countrey and a puis-saunt / whiche cou?trey 
the sayd duke and his sonne claymeth to haue by ryght successyon / and 
so dyde their predecessours before them / but the Fresons wolde neuer 
fall to any reason / nor come vnder obeysau?ce /
later in the same text

Lette Iohan of Burgoyne and our cosins of Fraunce do their enterprise / 
and do thy dedes aparte / & go thou in to Frese and conquere our 
herytage that these fresones by pride and rudenes do witholde fro vs / 
and wyll come to none obeysaunte / and to do this I shall ayde the.

Here begynneth the thirde and fourthe boke of sir Iohån Froissart of the 
cronycles of Englande, Fraunce, Spaygne, Portyngale, Scotlande, 
Bretayne, Flaunders, and other places 1525.


euriol wrote:
> Hello all,
> Some of you may be aware I'm working on a translation of an herbal, and I
> came across a word I can't define. The herbal is "The Names of Herbes" by
> William Turner. In the entry regarding wormwood it says (my translation)
> "the Freses call it wild rosemary". I cannot identify precisely exactly who
> the "Freses" are. I have a guess that it might be the Frisians, but I can
> not find anything conclusive with all the web searching I've done. There
> are some books that appear to be written in Swedish on google books that
> has "Freses" (capitalized) but I do not read Swedish so I can't translate
> them in context. Just to note that the Greek, Latin, German, French &
> English name for the wormwood is already identified in the entry for
> wormwood. It even has an entry for "Coloners" which I could confirm to mean
> "Colonists", but from which Colony is not stated.
> Any help would be appreciated,
> Euriol
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