[Sca-cooks] A proposal: Das Kochbuch der Philippine Welser

Huette von Ahrens ahrenshav at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 26 17:38:02 PDT 2008

I have been working on this book for some time, up until my husband accidently deleted all my files.  I believe that Master Tirloch is working on this book also.  

The copyright problem is that this book has been transcribed from the original into modern German.  The modern German part is and has been copyrighted.  The original is still in public domain.  I think, although I am no expert, that if you translated it into English, you could place it on your website for public viewing as long as you give attribution to the transcriber/translator.  But you cannot, absolutely cannot, publish your translations for any kind of remuneration nor could you publish them in the TI or CA without first getting permission of the transcriber/translator.

I have to get back to my translations.  I am hoping that once I finish, I can place it on someone's website so that others can benefit from my work.

Mistress Huette

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Sam Wallace <sam_wallace at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Sam Wallace <sam_wallace at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Sca-cooks] A proposal: Das Kochbuch der Philippine Welser
> To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 12:52 PM
> I have just gotten a copy of Das Kochbuch der Philippine
> Welser. This is a 
> two volume set with a facsimile edition in one volume and
> commentary, 
> transcription and glossary in the second. I am of course
> very happy about 
> this and wanted to share the joy a little. Well, actually,
> I would like to 
> share all of the joy, but I believe there might be some
> copyright issues. 
> What I would like to do is to post a recipe a day in the
> original language 
> and see if we as a group can translate it over the course
> of the day. Some 
> sections are short while others are a couple of pages in
> length. Here is the 
> first recipe as an example:
> Zucker zu leytteren
> Item Nimb ain pfund zucker, vnd das weys von aynem ay, das
> schlag wol mit 
> ainem leffell, vnnd thues jn den zucker, vnnd geuss ein
> mass wassen [wasser] 
> dar eyn, vnnd ruers durck ain ander, thues dan jn ain
> mesina pfanen, vnnd 
> ruers setz auff ain tryfuess dhue ain glut dar vnder, vnnd
> las zwo stund 
> sten, vnnd ruers nit vmb, vnnd schaue, vnnd schaue, das es
> nit jber ge vnnd 
> wn [crossed out] wan du sichst das das kitt zu samen get,
> vnnd sy auff pent 
> vnnd der zuger praun wirt so Nim jn her ab vnnd seychs
> schen durch ain durch 
> vnnd setz dan wider auff den tryfuess vnnd lass auff ain
> stund sten vnd wan 
> du sychs das es prun jst so thue den zucker her ab von dem
> feur vnnd thue jn 
> an das ding das du ayn machen wilt Es sey jmber paredeyss
> epfoll oder ander 
> ding vnd las als lang ser [crossed out] sten biss es lab
> wirt so ist es 
> recht.
> You know it has to be good if it starts off with,
> "Take a pound of 
> sugar...." If this pleases the group, I will continue.
> I hope this proves to 
> be an enjoyable effort for all.
> Guillaume 
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