[Sca-cooks] OOP PETA's Suggestion to Ben and Jerry from another recovering lactator

Daniel & Elizabeth Phelps dephelps at embarqmail.com
Sun Sep 28 16:18:06 PDT 2008

Greetings, all!
Being another recovering lactator, this issue has insured that I will never 
have the slightest interest in anything PETA says ever again, not that I had 
much use for them before this. I just weaned my youngest and last, earlier 
than I wanted to because of my need to address my own medical issues.
Their logic, what there is of it, is faulty too. Human breast milk (as well 
as any mammalian milk) is for _baby_ humans. When you are no longer a baby, 
you do not need this any more. Cows, goats, sheep, and a few other animals 
have been bred for millenia to be dairy animals, which all of us on the 
cook's list are perfectly well familiar with. So, taking it to another 
logical but extreme conclusion, are those mush-brained ninnies at PETA 
proposing we start breeding humans as dairy animals? Did they actually 
consult any human women who have breastfed children before they did this? 
It's a lot of work feeding a baby, to produce milk for ice cream for grown 
up humans would take some pretty substantial financial incentives. Being 
cranky today anyway, I will probably send PETA an email asking if this is 
what they are proposing, after I get done calling them eight kinds of 
To partially address Stefan's question, there are human milk banks in use 
today, but the medical restrictions on who can donate to them are pretty 
significant, from what I am given to understand. Engorged breasts are 
Now I get to see how long it takes to get Daniel to stop calling me Mommy 
Moo, his soubriquet of the last six years.
Thanks for being sensible.
Isabella de la Gryffin

Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
Frank Zappa

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like 
administering medicine to the dead.
Thomas Paine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Benson" <voxeight at gmail.com>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] OOP PETA's Suggestion to Ben and Jerry

> Regardless of the production issues, I cannot see this working for
> another significant reason - the lactating woman's diet.
> Anything that the woman eats is transferred, in a smaller way, to the
> woman's breast milk. Anyone in the side business of selling their
> breast milk would have to be on a severely restricted and documented
> diet so that the manufacturer of the end product could guarantee the
> safety and content of the end product.
> No drinking, no drugs (recreational or otherwise) and no common
> allergen foodstuffs. All of the allergy issues we have discussed on
> this here list? The "producer" could not eat any of those things - so
> no peanuts, soy, wheat, dairy etc ... etc ... or the end manufacturer
> would have to label the end product appropriately as contaminated with
> these items.
> And assuming that the reason for using the breast milk is that people
> wanted a healthier product then the woman would have to be able to
> ensure that she is consuming a hormone free, antibiotic free,
> pesticide free diet.
> Hmmmm, how many hours at the gym would a woman have to out in to be
> considered "Free Range"?
> Hey! I am just taking it to it's logical conclusion.
> --
> Serena
> a recovering Lactator
> Oh, and in regards to an earlier question. Ice cream - yes, Cheese - no.
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