[Sca-cooks] Is Zuccnini Marrow?

Johnna Holloway johnnae at mac.com
Tue Aug 25 10:43:10 PDT 2009

It's a confusing subject and teh sources vary. William Woys Weaver says 
that Cocozelle was used for all
zucchini like squash in this country until zuccchini became the word 
applied to them in the 20th century.
Seeds of Change offers a Cocozelle Bush Zuchini - Pack
/Cucurbita pepo/
4-7 in.
  Introduced before 1885, known then as Italian Vegetable Marrow or 
"Cocozella di Napoli."

Seeds for vegetable  marrows and odd squash can be found sometimes at:
Or try http://www.thompson-morgan.com
US dealer seems to be at http://www.tmseeds.com/
US offers only two varieties out of the six offered by the UK firm.
If I recall correctly, squashes can cross-pollinate too. That would be 
another consideration.
"Summer squash, pumpkins, gourds, and some types of winter squash belong 
to the same plant species Cucurbita pepo. All species members may cross 
with one another. Thus, an acorn squash will cross pollinate with a 
zucchini or a miniature gourd." 


Linda Peterson wrote:
> So now I'm even more confused about marrows. They appear to be 
> different from zucchini, and more variable in appearance. Maybe we can 
> get Michele to grow some.
>   mirhaxa at morktorn.com
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Johnna Holloway wrote:
>> John Ato writes "*zucchini* /Zucchini/ is the usual term in American 
>> and Australian English for /courgettes/, to which it is 
>> etymologically related. It is a direct borrowing of Italian 
>> /zucchini/, the plural of /zucchino/, ‘courgette’, which is a 
>> diminutive form of /zucca/, ‘gourd’. This came from Latin /cucutia/, 
>> a by-form of /cucurbita/, source of French /courge/, ‘gourd’ (of 
>> which /courgette/ is a diminutive)."
>> (You can do an image search on Google and compare the produce to the 
>> names. It's quite easy to see the differences between the vegetable 
>> marrows and zucchini.) snipped
>> What we have discovered in the past and been over a number of times 
>> on the list is that the wording in various books is not precise when 
>> it comes to the marrows, squashes, and gourds. There are pages and 
>> pages of posts on this topic in the Florilegium.

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