[Sca-cooks] Rue

David Walddon david at vastrepast.com
Mon Jan 26 12:48:40 PST 2009

It totally disappears in Martino. I don't think have the Octavo disk  
handy or would do a search.

A while back there was some discussion on translation issues of RUE  
from the Latin.
Does anyone remember this thread?

21%  is a fairly significant ingredient.



Food is life. May the plenty that graces your table truly be a VAST  

David Walddon
david at vastrepast.com

On Jan 26, 2009, at 12:39 PM, lilinah at earthlink.net wrote:

> Eduardo wrote:
>> I think the radish leaf idea is interesting.
> I've been eating it sauteed in butter since i lived in Southern  
> France in 1973. I like the taste. But i also like young dandelion  
> leaves (talk about bitter :-)
>> I do find rue to be bitter and somewhat sour but NOT nasty.
>> Then of course my two favorite flavor components are bitter and sour!
>> When we were playing with Apicius the rue issue was huge, but what
>> other cuisines call for it in any quantity?
> Rue appears in 21 per cent of savory recipes in the 13th century so- 
> called Anonymous Andalusian cookbook:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~al-tabbakhah/Misc_ME_Food/ 
> SpiceboxAndalusi.html
> I don't know how often rue actually appears in "Fadalat al-Jiwan fi  
> Tayyibat al-t'am wa'l-alwan" (Highlights of the table, on dishes  
> and stews), by Abu'l-Hasan Ali ibn Muhammad ibn Abi'l-Qasim ibn  
> Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr ibn al-Andalusi Razin al-Tujibi
> from Murcia between 1228 and 1243. His is sometimes shortened "al- 
> Razin" or "al-Tujibi" (written in Spanish as al-Tugibi, but  
> pronounced the same as in English). His book has not yet been  
> translated in its entirety into English, although we've translated  
> a few from Spanish of Fernando de la Granja Santamaria to English  
> on this list - always problematic to translate without referring to  
> the original. There is a somewhat larger number of recipes from  
> that work in "Medieval Cuisine of the Islamic World" by Lilia  
> Zaouali. She includes some of the recipes that were translated by  
> Granja Santamaria and there are some distinct differences from  
> Suey's translations.
> Rue does not appear in al-Baghdadi's 13th century cookbook, however:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~al-tabbakhah/Misc_ME_Food/ 
> SpiceboxBaghdadi.html
> It may be that rue is a more " Mediterranean" herb, or perhaps its  
> use is a Roman holdover. I should also look through my Medieval  
> Muslim pharmacopoeia (al-Kindi, al-Samarqandi, etc.) and see if rue  
> appears.
> And i have not yet done a seasoning count of the massive amount of  
> 9th and 10th century recipes in Ibn Sayyur al-Warraq's compendium.  
> I really need to start working on that, too.
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