[Sca-cooks] Cow harness

Ron Carnegie r.carnegie at verizon.net
Wed Nov 11 15:25:12 PST 2009

  I'm not certain this is true either.  Oxen begin their training when they
are still very young.  I will ask some of my ox driving pals when the
occasion arises.

"I'm your huckleberry"

Ron Carnegie
r.carnegie at verizon.net 

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I'm not sure...as I've never known oxen to be used, as I said, as draft
animals.  I only remember seeing my grandfather, uncle and father castrate


On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Terry Decker <t.d.decker at att.net> wrote:

> If you will recall "Sweet Betsy From Pike;" "with two yoke of oxen..."  In
> the US, draft cattle are oxen, beef cattle are steers.  Since we haven't
> really used draft cattle for almost a hundred years (since heavy wagons
> motorized and horses and mules were more often used for farming), the term
> usually pops up only in special circumstances.  I also seem to remember
> steers are castrated as calves, but oxen are castrated after sexual
> maturity, but I am not sure of the accuracy of that statement.
> Bear
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