[Sca-cooks] a Medieval "vegan" potpie??

Stephanie Yokom sayokom at gmail.com
Sat Oct 3 23:54:07 PDT 2009

The plausible is actually starting with the spinach.  I do know that
zucchini and green peppers are new world foods.  But I was thinking of using
mushrooms and other period veggies as possible substitutes.  But using this
recipe given is a good starting point for what to look for, now thinking
about it.

As for the pastry part, I can research the files to find a crust  to hold
everything together.

Now that I am armed with resources and information, I can find what I am
looking for!


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Stefan li Rous
<StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>wrote:

> Sabra commented:
> <<< Thank you!  To me, this looks plausible in serving because of the
> ingredients involved and it looks simple enough to prepare.  I never really
> thought of the lentil family being the main course, either. (Mainly because
> I can't even get my family to eat baked beans and I love beans!) >>>
> "looks plausible" in what way? That it will meet your vegan friends
> requirements? Or that it is something you think you can fix? Or that it
> looks medieval?
> Well, maybe on the first, but not on the latter. At least to those who have
> studied the medieval foods and even "period" foods.  The Green Peppers and
> the Zucchini are New World foods, so not known in Europe prior to 1492.
> Whether the two were known and where they were known will vary upon the
> region you are talking about, since just because something is period for,
> say Spain, doesn't mean it was period for England. Or Russia. I think the
> Zucchini was actually a point of discussion within the last week or two.
> On top of this, the filo pastry isn't period, although it is often used to
> substitute, because of its availability, for period pastries which are.
> You can find previous discussions on green peppers, zucchinis and filo
> pastry in various files in the Florilegium.
> <<< I will check out the florilegium because I do keep forgetting that
> there are
> savory tarts as well. >>>
> I have heard people suggest leaving a trail of bread crumbs behind you, or
> at least setting an alarm clock, when you go into the Florilegium...But I
> wouldn't know about that. It's all just hearsay.
> <<< This is very interesting information that I have learned about
> vegetarianism
> in the middle ages.  Learning that it could get you killed! >>>
> How so?
> The Middle Ages was such a quiet, peaceful time. Not like those
> Elizabethans... :-)
> poisons-art       (42K)  8/30/94    Medieval poisons and antidotes.
> http://www.florilegium.org/files/UNCAT/poisons-art.html
> poisons-msg       (28K)  3/26/04    Medieval poisons.
> http://www.florilegium.org/files/UNCAT/poisons-msg.html
> Stefan
> ============
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Johnna Holloway <johnnae at mac.com> wrote:
> There' no medieval source but you could try this one.
> Vegetarian Filo Pie
> Serves 4 People
> Ingredients
> 10oz / 300 g frozen filo pastry - thawed
> Olive oil
> Sesame seeds
> 1lb/450 g fresh baby spinach
> 8oz / 225 g grated zucchini
> 4oz/100g finely chopped green pepper
> 1 small onion finely chopped
> 2 garlic cloves finely chopped or crushed
> 1 tbs olive oil for brushing
> 1/3 cup fresh parsley (or 1dessertspoon dried parsley)
> ? tsp nutmeg
> Pinch black pepper
> 1oz /25 g feta cheese, crumbled
> <snip>
> --------
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