[Sca-cooks] Saba

David Walddon david at vastrepast.com
Sun Jun 20 09:48:18 PDT 2010

The "p" has transmuted to a "b" in Italian.
I have no idea when or how.

In Riley's "The Oxford Companion to Italian Food" the entry is under Saba.
It reads - 
SABA, SAPA (grape must). See MUSTO COTTO, MUST.
There is no entry under Sapa.

Florio also uses the word Saba.
It reads - 
Saba, new wyne sodden, which we call cute, which they use to season meates
He also has an entry for Sapa.
It reads - 
Sapa, a kinde of sodden wine or cute, used also for a kinde of sauce.
(interestingly the next entry is "Sapadore, a sillibube made of wine and
milke." Anyone have an extant Italian recipe for this?)


Saba on Saba would be interesting! Unfortunately I have seen no recipes in
the corpus for using saba with fish. I suspect that the humors are all
wrong. At least the medical ones!

On 6/20/10 4:48 AM, "Terry Decker" <t.d.decker at att.net> wrote:

> What is the language of origin for saba?  Sapa is Latin and refers to a more
> highly condensed defrutum.  From Google, I gather sapa may show up in ethnic
> markets as pekmez or dibis.  BTW, neither sapa nor saba shows up in my copy
> of the OED.
> Just to add to the fun, in Japanese, saba would be mackeral and there is a
> West Indian plantain named saba.
> Some other curious trivia that popped up in the search is the Saban, Hiriam
> Beakes, pirate, who is attributed with the phrase, "Dead men tell no tales."
> Arrrgh!
> Bear
>> Bear,
>> Yes I mean Sapa and Saba.
>> Spelled both ways.
>> Eduardo
>> On 6/19/10 6:30 PM, "Terry Decker" <t.d.decker at att.net> wrote:
>>> I think he means sapa, which is condensed wine must used in Roman
>>> cookery.
>>> The only Saba I know is an is;and in the Netherland Antilles.
>>> Bear
>>>> I have never heard of Saba.  I have heard of Sabra.  The cheapest place
>>>> online called "WineChateau" has Sabra for $27.69 before shipping.  I
>>>> have
>>>> never used the place, so I don't know how reliable it is.  BevMo has
>>>> Sabra,
>>>> but for almost the same price that you quote.
>>>> Sorry.
>>>> Huette
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