[Sca-cooks] On Nattes

Ian Kusz sprucebranch at gmail.com
Thu Jun 24 17:19:15 PDT 2010


What about the Waffle S.S.?  I presume they were members of the S.S. who
could turn into waffles?

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Terry Decker <t.d.decker at att.net> wrote:

>  Is the English word wafer a variant of the word waffle?  If so, maybe
>> wafer is not the best translation for the word oblaten.  They sound
>> positively nummy, at any rate!
>>
>> Katherine
>>
>
> In English, wafer to a thin crisp cake, biscuit or candy.
>  Ecclesiastically, it refers to the Eucharist, which is a thin disk of
> unleavened bread.  The word derives from Old French and is of Germanic
> origin.  A waffle is a light batter cake produced in a heated iron.  In
> practice, waffles are commonly thicker and softer than wafers.  The word
> derives from the Middle Dutch, wafel.  Since Oblate(n) is used to refer to
> the consecrated host, it is more correctly translated as wafer.  Wafer and
> waffle can both be translated as die Waffle.
>
> Middle Dutch was used from the mid-12th through the 15th Centuries, so the
> origin of waffle is early enough.  Waffle is primarily used in U.S. English
> and only begins appear there in print in the very early 19th Century.  The
> spelling of die Waffle makes me think that it may have been adopted into
> German from English and is thus a modern artifact rather than one that might
> occur in the 15th or 16th Centuries.  So, waffle may be a poor choice of
> translation in most cases.
>
> It does occur to me that I do not know the meaning of wafel (it might
> translate to wafer) and I do not have a Dutch-English dictionary available
> to me (translation programs do not handle variations in meaning or
> synonyms).  So hopefully someone working in the Dutch corpus can provide
> some enlightenment.
>
> Bear
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