[Sca-cooks] Measurements in de Casteau

[wheezul at canby.com]

Just poking around a retumbe is a circular glass:

http://books.google.fr/books?id=G3o5AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA139&dq=retumbe+vin&hl=fr&ei=tSfbTcOZJI7PiAKasd32Dw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false

It seems like the reum prefix is a little more Germanic.  I wonder if a
ro:mer (a type of drinking glass)is similar?  Something is in the back of
my head and I can't quite call it forward.  Oh, he's from Belgium - no
wonder the words have a bit of a strange spelling.

Katherine

>
> In the same vein, satin may be "centime" meaning 1/100 of a livre (pound)
> or
> roughly 4.895 grams between 1350 and adoption of the metric system.
>
> A chopine would have been variable by region, but it was standardized in
> the
> 18th Century to 465.7 milliliters or roughly a pint.
>
> A verre is a glass or cup, actual size unknown, but 5 fl oz would be a
> good
> start.
>
> And I can't find anything to match reumer.
>
> Bear
>
>>I can't help you with a source, but a sopine is probably a chopine in
>>modern
>> French, and I wouldn't be suprised if a "voir" was a "verre". Of cours,
>> that
>> doesn't help you at all ;-)
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:57 PM, <lilinah at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking at de Casteau's Ouverture de la Cuisine and i have noticed
>>> some
>>> unfamiliar measurements. I wonder what source would explain them...
>>>
>>> satin - a measurement of spices
>>> sopine - a measurement of liquid
>>> un voir - a measurement of liquid, e.g., "de malvoisie ou vin
>>> d'Espagne"
>>> un reumer - a measurement of liquid, e.g., "de vin d'Espagne"
>>>
>>> I don't just want to know what each is - i seem to have come across the
>>> modern form of two of them - although i do want to know what they are.
>>> But i
>>> am also looking for a resource that will explain medieval measurements,
>>> or,
>>> as in this case, French measurements, when i run across others -
>>> bearing
>>> in
>>> mind that many change over time exactly what quantity they are.
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