[Sca-cooks] The Naming of Names - slightly OOP

[Philip Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius]

On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:58 -0600, Deborah Hammons wrote:
> Out here a Province is just a Province.  A Crown Barony is different.  Got
> to love interkingdom anthropology.
> 
> Aldyth

Yes, you do. But when this all occurred, there was The SCA, which was
based in California... and basically noplace else, and then groups
started forming on the East Coast, and only then did the idea of
different Kingdoms come about. And when the group in New York City
formed, for a while that was it, and they didn't even think in terms of
sub-groups... it was just the East to distinguish it from the West
(formerly known as the SCA).

So yeah, my local group is friggin' old... ;-)

Incidentally, congrats to new Viceregal-elects Guy and Johanna!

Adamantius

> 
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Saint Phlip <phlip at 99main.com> wrote:
> 
> > That maybe your experience, but that's not the experience of  the
> > greater NYC area. Ostgardr has been a Province with a  sitting Viceroy
> > and Vicereine since rocks were soft ;-) Ian and Katherine recently
> > stepped down after having been in that position for years and years,
> > Alexandre and Eularia took a  turn, and last I heard there were
> > several candidates being voted on for the job (I'm not a member of
> > Ostgardr, so I'm not involved in the actual voting, so I'm not sure if
> > anyone has been elected yet.)
> >
> > However, Ostgardr is NOT a  Crown Province because they lack for good
> > and willing candidates for the position to fill the coronet.
> >
> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Deborah Hammons
> > <mistressaldyth at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It has been my experience that Provinces are groups that either cannot or
> > > will not have good candidates to fill the coronet (Sitting Baronage.)
> > Beats
> > > being a Crown Barony in some people's minds. YMMV.  I do know of one that
> > > just wants to be the Province without the "hassle" of baronial awards and
> > > other things.
> > >
> > > Aldyth
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Donna Green <donnaegreen at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] The Naming of Names - slightly
> > >> > OOP
> > >>
> > >> > Does the Province{?} of Ostgardr consist of just the five
> > >> > boroughs/
> > >> > cantons?  And what is an SCA "province"? How does it
> > >> > vary from a
> > >> > barony or a principality?
> > >>
> > >> A province is the same as a barony in terms of size and officer
> > >> requirements, but it does not have a Baron and/or Baroness. They are
> > common
> > >> here in the West, particularly in the Mists. I think the Crown Provice
> > of
> > >> Ostgardr (NY) and the Provice of Treegirtsea (Chicago) are the only ones
> > >> outside the West.
> > >>
> > >> The theory in the old days, as I understand it, is that a Baron/ess's
> > job
> > >> is to stand in for the Crown when They aren't there. But, if you live in
> > an
> > >> area where the Crown is almost always there, then you don't need a stand
> > in,
> > >> so you have a Province instead of a Barony. The Provinces in the
> > >> Principality of the Mists are in the parts of the SF Bay Area where all
> > our
> > >> early kings came from. Golden Rivers (Sacramento) in the Principality of
> > >> Cynagua, became a Province after having been a Barony. The specific
> > reasons
> > >> for this change are unknown to me.
> > >>
> > >> Juana Isabella
> > >> West
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> > --
> > Saint Phlip
> >
> > So, you think your data is safe?
> >
> > http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/01/23/schneier.google.hacking/index.html?hpt=T2
> >
> > Heat it up
> > Hit it hard
> > Repent as necessary.
> >
> > Priorities:
> >
> > It's the smith who makes the tools, not the tools which make the smith.
> >
> > .I never wanted to see anybody die, but there are a few obituary
> > notices I have read with pleasure. -Clarence Darrow
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