[Sca-cooks] Some very modern-sounding warnings about some very old food
S CLEMENGER
sclemenger at msn.com
Tue Feb 11 09:57:26 PST 2014
Mr. Cheval, do you really, really want to go down this path? You’re a non-SCA person, with some interest in cooking, and, apparently, a blogger? self-publisher? of no particular reputation, on a mailing list with “SCA” in its very name, and you somehow think you’re qualified to tell us how to do things?
If you wonder, in your bluster, why you’re (finally?) picking up tones of exasperation, then good for you. You’ve gotten a clue that your history of heavy-handedness, your lecturing tones, your self-promotion, your lack of actual SCA cooking experience are giving you a less than stellar reputation on this list, and with the sometimes highly accomplished members of this list.
You, sir, are not my peer, nor, thank god, will you ever be.
--Maire
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Sent: February 11, 2014 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Some very modern-sounding warnings about some very old food
Do you think it's "common courtesy" to tell another adult "you need to" as
opposed to saying, for instance, "Typically here, we",. "it would be
helpful if" or "It's standard practice here"?
It would be one thing if I had a long practice of posting unsourced quotes
or if I had never cited Pearson before. But neither is true. This was one
post and I was very aware that anyone who really cared, if they did not
recall my earlier citation, could simply Google her name with the key phrase
and find the work, instantly:
_https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=%22early+medieval+food%22+pierson&o
q=%22early+medieval+food%22+pierson&gs_l=serp.3...8532.8842.0.9064.2.2.0.0.0
.0.102.191.1j1.2.0....0...1c.1.35.serp..2.0.0.OSallfUQ4UA_
(https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q="early+medieval+food"+pierson&oq="early+medieval+foo
d"+pierson&gs_l=serp.3...8532.8842.0.9064.2.2.0.0.0.0.102.191.1j1.2.0....0..
.1c.1.35.serp..2.0.0.OSallfUQ4UA)
_https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=%22early+medieval+food%22+pearson&o
q=%22early+medieval+food%22+pearson&gs_l=serp.12...187014.187117.0.188341.2.
2.0.0.0.0.97.107.2.2.0....0...1c.1.35.serp..2.0.0.jv_8OXtikXs_
(https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q="early+medieval+food"+pearson&oq="early+medieval
+food"+pearson&gs_l=serp.12...187014.187117.0.188341.2.2.0.0.0.0.97.107.2.2.
0....0...1c.1.35.serp..2.0.0.jv_8OXtikXs)
Nothing in this one instance justified the sharp tone of not only the
"request" for a source, but the whole post.
If there are "unwritten" rules around here or customary approaches, it
certainly doesn't hurt to call them to people's attention. But again, phrasing
such reminders as peremptory commands does not seem to me either courteous
or appropriate.
Jim Chevallier
(http://www.chezjim.com/) www.chezjim.com
Les Leftovers: sort of a food history blog
leslefts.blogspot.com
In a message dated 2/11/2014 8:49:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
dmyers at medievalcookery.com writes:
I didn't see it as an attempt to direct her peers so much as pointedly
noting to you something that is considered common courtesy here.
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