[Sca-cooks] Some very modern-sounding warnings about some very old food

S CLEMENGER sclemenger at msn.com
Tue Feb 11 09:57:26 PST 2014


Mr. Cheval, do you really, really want to go down this path? You’re a non-SCA person, with some interest in cooking, and, apparently, a blogger? self-publisher? of no particular reputation, on a mailing list with “SCA” in its very name, and you somehow think you’re qualified to tell us how to do things? 

 

If you wonder, in your bluster, why you’re (finally?) picking up tones of exasperation, then good for you. You’ve gotten a clue that your history of heavy-handedness, your lecturing tones, your self-promotion, your lack of actual SCA cooking experience are giving you a less than stellar reputation on this list, and with the sometimes highly accomplished members of this list.

 

You, sir, are not my peer, nor, thank god, will you ever be.

 

--Maire

 

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From: JIMCHEVAL at aol.com
Sent: ‎February‎ ‎11‎, ‎2014 ‎10‎:‎40‎ ‎AM
To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Some very modern-sounding warnings about some very old food



Do you think it's "common courtesy" to tell another adult "you need to" as  
opposed to saying, for instance, "Typically here, we",. "it would be  
helpful if" or "It's standard practice here"? 
 
It would be one thing if I had a long practice of posting unsourced  quotes 
or if I had never cited Pearson before. But neither is true. This was one  
post and I was very aware that anyone who really cared, if they did not  
recall my earlier citation, could simply Google her name with the key  phrase 
and find the work, instantly:
 
_https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=%22early+medieval+food%22+pierson&o
q=%22early+medieval+food%22+pierson&gs_l=serp.3...8532.8842.0.9064.2.2.0.0.0
.0.102.191.1j1.2.0....0...1c.1.35.serp..2.0.0.OSallfUQ4UA_ 
(https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q="early+medieval+food"+pierson&oq="early+medieval+foo
d"+pierson&gs_l=serp.3...8532.8842.0.9064.2.2.0.0.0.0.102.191.1j1.2.0....0..
.1c.1.35.serp..2.0.0.OSallfUQ4UA) 
 
_https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=%22early+medieval+food%22+pearson&o
q=%22early+medieval+food%22+pearson&gs_l=serp.12...187014.187117.0.188341.2.
2.0.0.0.0.97.107.2.2.0....0...1c.1.35.serp..2.0.0.jv_8OXtikXs_ 
(https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q="early+medieval+food"+pearson&oq="early+medieval
+food"+pearson&gs_l=serp.12...187014.187117.0.188341.2.2.0.0.0.0.97.107.2.2.
0....0...1c.1.35.serp..2.0.0.jv_8OXtikXs) 
 
Nothing in this one instance justified the sharp tone of not only the  
"request" for a source, but the whole post.

If there are "unwritten"  rules around here or customary approaches, it 
certainly doesn't hurt to call  them to people's attention. But again, phrasing 
such reminders as peremptory  commands does not seem to me either courteous 
or appropriate.
 
 
Jim  Chevallier
 (http://www.chezjim.com/) www.chezjim.com

Les Leftovers: sort of a food history  blog
leslefts.blogspot.com  

 
In a message dated 2/11/2014 8:49:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
dmyers at medievalcookery.com writes:

I didn't  see it as an attempt to direct her peers so much as pointedly
noting to you  something that is considered common courtesy  here.

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