[Sca-cooks] Austrian State Museum Cookery Books

Sat Jan 11 14:25:58 PST 2014

Hello All,

again I am WAY behind in my mails (too much work before and after the 
holiays and no computer during the holidays)

Just some notes on the  austrian cookbook site you found, which is btw NOT 
from the austrian  state museum but the Upper Austrian County museum 
(Obero(with dots = oe)sterreichisches Landesmuseum), it does have not only 
have recipes but also digitized hand written and (unfortunately not 
diditized) printed cookbooks. Alas all in german.
See Kochbuchhandschriften for handwritten  texts the earliest one of the 87 
they own is from 1646, the oldest  printed one is  from  1552. Balthasar 
Staindl „Ain künstlichs und nutzlichs Kochbuch“, printed in  Augsburg by 
Valentin Ottmar (not digitized).

The link does  sometimes have the whole book as PDF and a link to certain 
transcribed recipes, almost all have links to the images.

http://www.alteskochbuch.at/kochbuchhandschriften.php

There are two more old Austrian cookbook sites  available: one from the 
university of Salzburg and one from the Universit of Graz:

This is the link to the University of Salzburg's (County Salzburg) 
"Lucullarium", the old cookbook page:

http://www.ubs.sbg.ac.at/sosa/lucullarium.htm

The oldest one is from the 15c, here the link to the transcribed recipes, 
there are imagefiles available of the cookbook pages

http://www.ubs.sbg.ac.at/sosa/lucull/lucull128.htm

And this is the Link to the University Library of the University  of Graz 
(in Styria) again to handwritten (oldest 2nd half of 15c. MS1609, link has a 
glossar ) and printed (1688 earliest only the image files lead to a valid 
link) textes.

Her are links to the glossar for each text, and transcriptions of various 
recipes:

http://sosa2.uni-graz.at/sosa/druckschriften/dergedeckteTisch/handschriften.php

Link with detailed information and imagefiles to the whole book:

http://sosa2.uni-graz.at/sosa/katalog/katalogisate/1609.html

for the printed version you have to click on the book title to find the 
glossar and a further link to the full text on Thomas Gloning pages:

http://sosa2.uni-graz.at/sosa/druckschriften/dergedeckteTisch/drucke/ub-sosa-kochbuch1688.php

http://sosa2.uni-graz.at/sosa/druckschriften/dergedeckteTisch/drucke/ub-sosa-kochbuch1688-rezeptregister.pdf

Ein Koch- Und Artzney-Buch. Gedruckt zu Grätz/ Bey denen Widmanstetterischen 
Erben 1686

http://www.uni-giessen.de/gloning/tx/graz2.htm

http://sosa2.uni-graz.at/sosa/druckschriften/dergedeckteTisch/drucke.php

the do have  a link to a digitized Scappi version (Venedig: Alessandro de' 
Vecchi 1622) also:

http://sosa2.uni-graz.at/sosa/druckschriften/dergedeckteTisch/Kochbuch_Scappi/flash.html

and two french books from 1660 and 1655:

Lune, Pierre de: Le nouveau Cuisinier

http://sosa2.uni-graz.at/sosa/druckschriften/dergedeckteTisch/drucke/ub-sosa-koch-pierredelune.php

and the: Le pastissier francois, here only image files are available:

http://sosa2.uni-graz.at/sosa/druckschriften/dergedeckteTisch/I19964/

all in german, except the imagefiles of the french and italian Cookbook,

Have fun

maybe another link worth browsing :

http://www.literature.at/yearindex.alo

Austrian books (handwritten and printed, digitized):

before 1500:
49 texts, including various  "Sammelhandschriften" = collections of textes, 
mostly in latin, can include medicinal and or cooking textes also

1500-1600:

31 texts, again including collections with medical textes in latin

1600-1699

40 texts,  which includes a  a handwritten Arzeybuch , a french - english 
dictionary from 1699 and a facsimily print from 1680 on german grammar 
written in English called the High Dutch Minerva from the Bodleian Library

Kind Regards

Katharina
Ad Flumen Caerulum
(YES, on the blue river DOES mean on the the blue DANUBE actually, :-))
Drachenwald, Vienna / Austria

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Greetings! From another site there is notice that "The ?stereichisches
Landesmuseum (Austrian State Museum) is working on analysis and open
access of their collection of recipe manuscripts and printed cookbooks
from the 16th to the 20th century (site is in German only):
http://www.alteskochbuch.at/rezeptdatenbank.html "

Enjoy searching!
Alys K.
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Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:07:39 -0500
From: Johnna Holloway <johnnae at mac.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Austrian State Museum Cookery Books
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According to the initial page, the earliest is 1646 (von 1646) for the 
database of recipes taken from the manuscripts.

Here's some more info. Google Translate works pretty well.
The library has 87 handwritten cookbooks from the period from 1646 to the 
20th Century.

The recipe database of the library of the Upper Austrian Provincial Museum 
contains original recipes from the handwritten cookbooks of her collection 
from 1646 to the 20th Century.
Please note that this database is emerging, it is constantly being expanded.
The database contains:
The original recipe name
The modernized recipe name
The assignment to a division of food
A list of the main ingredients
The complete transcription of the recipe text (sporadically!)
The complete transfer in contemporary language and units of measure 
(planned)
The pictorial representation of the original text (in progress)
The source of the recipe (Cookbook detection by signature and page number)
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The printed collection is described here:

The oldest printed cookbook library comes from, 1552. It is Balthasar 
Staindls "Ain k?nstlichs and nutzlichs cookbook," printed at Augsburg by 
Valentin Ottmar.

The next volume that is featured seems to be 1718.

Certainly worth a browse.

Johnnae

On Dec 5, 2013, at 6:25 AM, Elise Fleming wrote:

> Greetings! From another site there is notice that "The ?stereichisches 
> Landesmuseum (Austrian State Museum) is working on analysis and open 
> access of their collection of recipe manuscripts and printed cookbooks 
> from the 16th to the 20th century (site is in German only):
> http://www.alteskochbuch.at/rezeptdatenbank.html "
> Enjoy searching! Alys K.

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