[Sca-cooks] Metal Poisoning from the fork

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By his use of the word "unclean" I suspect Pope Zachary is probably
referencing kashrut, according to the rules of which both horses and hares
are not allowed, being, well, unclean. And that's in the Old Testament.
Leviticus 11, specifically. A horse has neither a split hoof nor chews the
cud, and a hare although it chews the cud does not have a split hoof, thus
both animals are unclean.

11 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 2 “Say to the Israelites: ‘Of all the
animals that live on land, these are the ones you may eat: 3 You may eat
any animal that has a divided hoof and that chews the cud.

4 “‘There are some that only chew the cud or only have a divided hoof, but
you must not eat them. The camel, though it chews the cud, does not have a
divided hoof; it is ceremonially unclean for you. 5 The hyrax, though it
chews the cud, does not have a divided hoof; it is unclean for you. 6 The
rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a divided hoof; it is
unclean for you. 7 And the pig, though it has a divided hoof, does not chew
the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch
their carcasses; they are unclean for you.

Margaret


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:31 PM, <JIMCHEVAL at aol.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I missed this.
>
> Spoons were made with whatever a particular  person could afford. When St.
> Remy left spoons engraved with his own name in his  will, we can be pretty
> sure these were made of metal (probably silver).
>
> I have no doubt many spoons were made of wood. Boxwood? I've never seen
> that written anywhere. May I ask the source for that?
>
> If you could make a spoon of wood, you could of course make a fork as well.
>  Wooden forks are hardly unusual:
>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=wooden+fork&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=
> X&ei=0aVzU_WbIJeeyATOtYLYCA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1280&bih=856
>
>
> It's important too to realize that a prohibition didn't have to exist in
> the Bible to apply. I've never seen a Biblical source for prohibitions of
> eating  horse or hare nor did Pope Zachary cite any when he forbade eating
> both:
>
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=V3MKAAAAIAAJ&dq=Pope%20Zachary%20horse%20ha
> re&pg=PA711#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
> He simply didn't like the idea. Strange, since hare was actually a pretty
> standard food and is explicitly allowed by the Penitential texts:
>
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=SX5bAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=wassers
>
> chleben&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aKZzU4PnI42vyAS3rIDgCg&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=com
> edere&f=false
>
>
> These are also the most likely place to find any ban on eating in any way,
> but include nothing like the stricture on eating organic foods with metal
> implements mentioned.
>
> But overall it's pretty hard to follow up on this idea without actually
> having a documented source for it (documented that is beyond a modern food
> writer's claims).
>
>
> Jim  Chevallier
> _www.chezjim.com_ (http://www.chezjim.com/)
>
> Beyond Apicius (2):  recipes from other Roman sources
> _
> http://leslefts.blogspot.com/2014/05/beyond-apicius-2-recipes-from-other.ht
> ml_
> (
> http://leslefts.blogspot.com/2014/04/beyond-wine-water-and-beer-what-else.html
> )
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/13/2014 5:23:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> lordhunt at gmail.com writes:
>
> Spoons,  commonly used, were made of boxwood, making it all right to eat
> pottages with  organic ingredients as wood was  permitted.
>
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