[Sca-cooks] Saffel and satula

[James Prescott]

For A50, in that context in Ouverture (1604 Liége) we find "flat bottom 
dish" and "flat pan of white iron".

No specific idea from Ouverture for A20 saffel.  A large pot or large 
mortar?

Checking Rumpolt, "Zugemüß 1" has in a similar context "set with the 
mortar on the fire and crush continuously", which does suggest a mortar. 
  "Zugemüß 8" and "Zugemüß 9" also use a mortar for peas, though the 
contexts are slightly different.  "Zugemüß 11" has "fish kettle" in a 
similar context.


James / Thorvald


On 2017-11-13, 21:51, Julia Szent-Gyorgyi wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I'm hoping to track down a couple of words from the anonymous
> late-16th century Hungarian cookbook:_saffel_  and_satula_. From
> context, they're both some sort of vessel or container. Here's my
> translation of the recipes where they occur:
>
> ---
> A20. Pea pottage. Hull the peas, wash them well, cook them well in
> water, but so that the peas are not too thin, but fairly thick, then
> beat it through the copper sifter, take for the same a new saffel, and
> put in that the strained peas, and from morning to noon two people
> should stir it in the saffel and when you want to serve it up, add
> sugar to it and pour raisin-wine on it, then when you want to properly
> serve it up, sprinkle almonds on it, but cut it up finely, currants
> too, comfits as well, but half the comfits should be white, half
> yellow; but arrange these then in the bowl, then sprinkle it above
> with sugar nicely. He should stir it with a stick like a pestle.
>
> A50. Making a nice light garnet colored quince jelly. Peel the quince,
> put it on in the iron pot, cook it well in pure wine, then when it is
> cooked, take the quince out of it, put sugar in it, cook it until it
> is reduced to half or one-third part, then pour this into a satula as
> much as will fit, leave it in such a place where it will neither be
> jostled nor be exposed to drafts, let it set, like a cold dish, you
> will see, how nice and shiny it will be.
> ---
>
> Has anyone encountered anything like these in some other language?
>
> The pronunciation is ambiguous: in Hungarian, bare 's' is the/sh/
> sound as in 'ship' (and in period also the/zh/  sound as in
> 'measure'), but if it's a loanword, the 's' could represent/s/  as in
> 'sip' or/z/  as in 'zip'.
>
> I've found nothing whatsoever for_saffel_.
>
> For_satula_, my guess is that it's a variant of modern_skatulya_
> 'small box', derived from Latin_castulum_  'chest, small cabinet' via
> Italian_scatula_, but none of this tells me what sort of container it
> actually meant. I don't think he's pouring jelly into a shoebox or
> matchbox (the primary uses of the modern word).
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