[Scriptoris] Actually.....attempt at "dark" hours scroll

[ches]

Ack!  Sorry to forget the link to his new website,
http://www.ricks-place.ca/links.htm

He is the best! :)

Ches

----- Original Message -----
From: "ches" <ches at io.com>
To: <scriptoris at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Scriptoris] Actually.....attempt at "dark" hours scroll


> Actually, I have all the documentation I need on the periodness of the use
> but thanks anyway Ari! More is always good! :)
>
> (The Burning of Troy from Mira Calligrapha)
>
> It is a skin fully prepared by the famous Rick Cavasin. Indigo Blue is
> basically 'denim' blue.  He only uses traditional dyes, and indigo is the
> only blue dye there is (The dyestuff in Woad is chemically identical to
the
> indigotin contained in the various plants that are used to make indigo).
>
> I ended up having to apply a sheet of lightly moist linen to the piece and
> placing it under 20 pounds of weight to get it to flatten out. It was so
> tightly wound (small piece 10x12) I was unable to even unroll it so that
it
> would stay flat enough for me to place any weight on it. I unrolled it
with
> the linen in hand and it eased the stress that the piece was definitely
> undergoing. I held it with my hands for about 20 minutes so that it would
> soften enough to place the weights on it.
>
> I am just amazed at what it looks like! It is exactly like you described
> Serena!! I have this beautiful deep blue sheet of paper now and of course
> there is a little crinkle in it from the moisture but it could not be
> helped. It was either this or discard the beautiful skin as unusable. It
> really would not unroll when it was dry. :(
>
> Ches
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jocelyn Hinkle" <scribe_ari at lycos.com>
> To: <scriptoris at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Scriptoris] Actually.....attempt at "dark" hours scroll
>
>
> > chiara wrote:
> > >I am working on a scroll that will be put on a dark royal blue piece of
> goat
> > >skin. I am going to use gold ink. Now, this is a non-standard scroll,
> i.e.
> > >non-sca. But I still want the help of my fellow scribes for you all are
> the
> > >experts. :)
> > >
> > >What I need to know is this piece of skin is kinda rolled up and I want
> to
> > >flatten it out before I start inking.
> >
> > Hmmmm.....
> > Dark Blue is a perfectly acceptible color for an illuminated page, as
are
> red, green, black, purple.
> >
> > And now the quiz
> > 1. Has the skin been pre-colored?
> > 2. What pigment source (dye)was used for the tint?
> > (Most if not all commercial leater dyes are completely wrong for scribal
> work, and will produce unpredictable results.I have seen whole texts flake
> off a page due to the use of a leather tint.)
> >
> > 3. Was it sanded and sized before coloration?
> > 4. Soft skin or rawhide?
> > 5. Have you tested the effects of water, scraping, and sanding on a test
> scrap first?
> >
> > For un-dyed skin I use the following process to ready it for scribal
work.
> > -sand the skin front and back with medium sandpaper. Remove all hairs
and
> lumps.
> > -Bring a bucket of water to boil
> > -soak the sanded skin in the water till it reaches a uniform translucent
> state
> > -while still wet, stitch the skin on 4 sides between stretcher bars.
(use
> uncolored mercerized cotton string for this.)
> > -once the skin is suspended between the bars, rub it firmly but gently
on
> both sides to stretch it and tighten the bars.
> > -allow to dry completely overnight. the cotton string will break away
from
> the bars in some places, and this is fine. You want it to break before the
> skin tears.
> > -Repeat the entire process a minimum of 2 more times.
> > -Give the skin a final sanding with very fine sandpaper on both sides.
> > -Dust then rub down with talc.
> >
> >     This process results in a thin and very flat page that does not warp
> badly when worked with paints and inks. I use it to flatten out the rolled
> skins that may be purchased commercially.
> >     Skins treated in this manner may also be stapled flat and taut to a
> board to be inked and painted. The drawback to doing this is that they may
> not be adjusted to compensate for additional buckling brought on by the
> inking and painting process.  Dont use water heavy paints if you intend to
> go this route.
> >
> > Ari
> > ---
> > Is there enough of God left, in the dust
> > between the stars, to dance up more
> > life than your fragile ego can stand?
> > Scribe_Ari at Lycos.com
> >
> >
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