[Scriptoris] Scrolls and Charters--why?

tgnst tgnst at swbell.net
Thu Sep 11 14:56:33 PDT 2003

Sometimes the court reports don't get in or have holes, a copy of the
charter or scroll may then be needed to get the holder into the OP...The
Crown does not often remember every award given, a document in hand clears
up much..
People move about, documents can settle possible misunderstandings...I have
met three 'peers' in my time with no docs, befor this lovely internet thing
helped us do fact finding, people do switch names and personnas, or go away
for long periods, and then there are an occasional con  here and there...
People forget, data gets mislaid or misposted, names change, and those
pretty things on the wall can be taken down and used to fill in the gaps...
Documents very good thing, wheather its armigorous of any level , or not...
Get a decent batch together and we can name all the peers in x group or
region, and probably name most of the Lions and who made them, But Thisles
and Cranes, AoA's?
The longer we stay around to more we need an up to date OP, and definetly we
need to continue to have charters, We can handle keeping up with Peers and
Royals until we can get them settled with a Scribe...

'Stacia, in for 25 and C&I for 23 of it,
Currently working on a couple of Pelican scrolls, A County, and a B&B
investiture scroll in various stages, I work better in the winter :-), Did a
two hour class for Wiesenfeur in Aug, appearing in Mooneshadowe soon...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Hufford" <dhufford at earthlink.net>
To: "Scriptoris" <scriptoris at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:00 PM
Subject: [Scriptoris] Scrolls and Charters--why?

> Having followed the current discussion and its various tones and
> for several days the radical idea has occurred to me that we could clear
> backlog of Peerage Scrolls, the chronic shortage of Award Scrolls and any
> need for revisions or the like in one fell swoop if we just eliminate them
> altogether.
> Why do we have scrolls at all?  Award scrolls as we use them have no
> equivelent in the Middle Ages.  If artist are "wasting time" on Award
> Scrolls for local event Champions just so they can "have something to hang
> on the wall", is that not true of all scrolls?  From what I have been able
> to find, every Kingdom Award in Ansteorra--with the exceptions of an Award
> of Arms or a Rising Star--has some sort of Regalia that goes with that
> Award.  So isn't any scroll just a superfluous thing to hang on the wall?
> If all the Scribes and Artists of Ansteorra were not bogged down with the
> need to produce Award Scrolls and to clear the giant Backlog, think of the
> wonderful things that could be produced---Books of Hours, Herbals,
> Beastiaries, and fabulous originals of all sorts for the folks who really
> wanted them--and were willing to pay for them!  Hmm..the imagination
> staggers at the possibilities.
> one last thought, returning to the lack of regalia for an Award of Arms, I
> know it is common thinking that the higher the award the more elaborate
> scroll and that AoAs are simple, easy and can and should be whipped out in
> as little as an hour since they are not that *important*.  But perhaps we
> should keep in mind that that pre-printed, painted scroll is all you get
> with an Award of Arms and that for  most folks that is the only Kingdom
> award they will ever receive.
> Just some thoughts from 'only a painter'
> I remain
> In Service
> Siobhan,
> Northkeep Scribal Guild
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