SR - Not knowing about this

[Michael Scofield]

Sir Galen wrote:

>Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:35:54 -0500
<SNIP>
>> I also have a very large problem with how this is being handled as 
far
>> as distribution of information.  Many people can not attend populace
>> meetings and most of the meetings on this subject have been announced
>> with only a short time before the meeting.  
>
>> These ways of distributing information and taking votes are also 
easily biased.  I > work in medical research and have seen this happen.  
I also have a problem with > this
>> being handled on 1)the web in general and not more in the public, I 
did
>> not know about these newsgroups until a short time ago and I believe
>> many people are left without any information, and 2) a special sub 
list
>> that I just so happen to come across by accident.
>
>I have seen and heard of announcements at least two to three months
>before a meeting, never really less than a month.  I know that efforts
>were made to inform all seneschal's, etc.  If one is not on the net,
>doesn't go to populace meetings, or fighter practises, or wherever news
>is distributed in your group, then how should information such as this
>be distributed?  These are just get togethers to discuss the idea of a
>principality. As far as I have seen, no one has started any official
>petition or other official action.  Are you saying that unofficial
>disscussion meetings must always be advertised in the BlackStar, months
>in advance? Or should those who like the idea of a principality go
>personally to everyones door, knock on it and ask their opinion? 
>(Actually, in a way, that is ultimately what will happen, at least by
>way of the mailbox, rather than the door.  It just seems a little early
>to be this upset about it.) I have seen events go off with less warning
>than these meetings have had, on or off the net. As to these 
discussions
>being on a special sub-list....they were on the main Ansteorra list for
>months, (well, it felt like months) up to the point of taking over all
>discussions on that list, until they were moved here where people not
>interested didn't have to wade through them.
>
>> 
>> On the subject of polling and groups wanting to join this 
principality.
>> There are some groups that are not being listened to who do not wish 
to
>> seperate such as La Marche Sauvage.  What if you were suddenly told 
that
>> you were annexed by Mexico and no longer part of the US. (Remember 
that
>> the only reason to form a principality is to eventually form a new
>> kingdom.)
>> 
>
>I disagree that such groups are not being listened too....if a petition
>goes through, with their area included, they will get a vote.  Any
>pro-principality movement which would conscript an unwilling group 
would
>simply be diluting their own voting strength, not a good idea. It may 
be
>that the groups don't feel that they are being listened to beccause 
they
>don't get any kind of formal response.  That is understandable, because
>at this time there is no sort of formal organization to draft such a
>response.  Those who are pro-principality are working on developing 
some
>sort of organization for that, but things take time.  As to your last
>sentence in the above paragraph, I can only reiterate...I disagree.
>
>
> I also do not want to see a principality form just to break off.  But
>that is a misleading concept.  If there is such a call for division 
that
>a part of the kingdom wishes to break off, they don't need a
>principality to do it.  In fact, a principality might serve as a sort 
of
>"relief valve", allowing those who want change, who want to be involved
>in the creation of something new, who want all of the things that are
>involved with an undertaking like this a chance to do it _without_
>splitting the Kingdom.  With all of the energy, focus and drive need to
>make a new principality, I don't think anyone would be ready to leap 
off
>into making a new kingdom for a long, long time.  As I said, I believe
>that this kingdom is a lot stronger than some people give credit for 
and
>I refuse to believe that simply creating a subdivision within it will
>lead to its demise and downfall.  If that were true, the differences in
>our geographic and cultural regions within the Kingdom would have torn
>us apart years ago.
>
>I am not part of the group supporting the principality movement, I 
don't
>live in the area. But I also don't want to see them given a bad name, 
as
>if they were trying to do something behind peoples backs.  I have
>watched from a distance, and as far as I can see these people have done
>everything they can to be inclusive, to spread information both on and
>off the net, and to be sure that _everyone_, pro and con, has had a
>chance to have input.  Has everyone had that chance yet?  No, they
>haven't, but this is just getting started.  Have some people slipped
>through the cracks?  Of course, but that is why there will be many more
>such discussions in the future.  If you have heard about things now,
>then you are still getting in on the ground floor, nobody has started
>building anything yet, they are just trying to get ideas for a
>prospective blue print.
>
>> I thank you for you time,
>> 
>> Jason MacPherson
>> 
>> ONE STAR--ONE KINGDOM
>
>One Star, One Kingdom.....I agree.  But a Principality needn't change
>that.
>
>
>Graf Galen Eadwin Kirchenbauer, KSCA
>Loyal subject of the Crown of Ansteorra

You have politely told all of the people raising hell about not knowing 
anything about the proposed principality that they don't need to get 
their draweres in a bunch. I'm glad you did it, I'm afraid that all of 
the shouting and cheap shots being taken had gotten out of hand. There 
were 130 new messages on my mail this morning, come on folks, use a 
little restraint. Wait until you have a substantial message, not three 
or four words in response to someone else who wrote three or four 
paragraphs. And change the "Subject" if you aren't addressing the topic.

Knowledge of the discussions and polls of everyone who was at the 
various meetings (including populace meetings all over the region) and 
other information is going to get out to everyone who is active enough 
to go to populace meetings, events, fighter practice, guild meetings, or 
any other SCA related gathering, just as soon as the people who have 
volunteered to put together the newsletter can get it done.

Ivar

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